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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 22:11:38
April 03 2015 22:10 GMT
#24041
you moved in yet?

my family owns a couple bars in downtown detroit. If you ever go to The Park Bar or St. CeCe's let me know.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 22:11:51
April 03 2015 22:10 GMT
#24042
On April 04 2015 07:10 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:07 eieio wrote:
passiveace whats the best slider place in detroit my uncle says maybe green dot

sliders are so good omg how have I not had these things before those awful appetizers that applebees had don't count

green dot stables 1000000%

its right inside super blighted area though, next to Mexican village.
GL

nice I'll hit it this weekend thanks yo


On April 04 2015 07:10 PassiveAce wrote:
you moved in yet?

I'm here, still looking for a place so living with family. Hoping to move in next month.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 03 2015 22:11 GMT
#24043
On April 04 2015 06:58 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:37 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.

You were the one who started with the extremes, I'm not sure why were even having this discussion when you claim thing slike "most people dont know how to kick a ball".
I've played sports pleny of times before and I can confirm, people are indeed capable of performing the basic game actions.

I suppose since we're still here "Physical Ability" in the way I am using it means the raw power of the person in question. I am using it just as their basic physical stats (speed, strength, stamina, etc.) "Technique" on the other hand for me is the ability to actually do the thing you're set on doing. Obviously the first is important, but saying that it is more important than the miniscule differences in the second is absolutely ridiculous. In fact I'd say that mental ability (knowing what you're supposed to do, and where you're supposed to be) is also more important than physical ability in sports. You can see this simply by the amount of time that any pro spends on each of the things. Technique is far and away the most worked on thing for all athletes. There is a reason that sports have all of those stupid little drills for players. Because those teach you how to do the basics of the sport that you simply can not make up for with raw power. You absolutely have to have the technique down or else you're not worth anything.

Please see Chad Johnson playing in MLS as an example. Peak physical condition (at the time he was probably the most physically gifted receiver in the NFL), basic knowledge of the game (played in high school, and maybe college), 0 chance of ever playing above the training team.

Now then, if you're seriously going to continue to argue that physical ability trumps technique then I guess we can continue, but I'd really rather not.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 03 2015 22:13 GMT
#24044
On April 04 2015 07:10 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:10 PassiveAce wrote:
On April 04 2015 07:07 eieio wrote:
passiveace whats the best slider place in detroit my uncle says maybe green dot

sliders are so good omg how have I not had these things before those awful appetizers that applebees had don't count

green dot stables 1000000%

its right inside super blighted area though, next to Mexican village.
GL

nice I'll hit it this weekend thanks yo


Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:10 PassiveAce wrote:
you moved in yet?

I'm here, still looking for a place so living with family. Hoping to move in next month.

nice.
Il hit you up once im back in Detroit after this semester
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 22:16:24
April 03 2015 22:15 GMT
#24045
fuck now i really want a slider from greendot
thats actually the first place i bought a drink after i turned 21, funny you brought it up.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
April 03 2015 22:19 GMT
#24046
On April 04 2015 07:11 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:58 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:37 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.

You were the one who started with the extremes, I'm not sure why were even having this discussion when you claim thing slike "most people dont know how to kick a ball".
I've played sports pleny of times before and I can confirm, people are indeed capable of performing the basic game actions.

I suppose since we're still here "Physical Ability" in the way I am using it means the raw power of the person in question. I am using it just as their basic physical stats (speed, strength, stamina, etc.) "Technique" on the other hand for me is the ability to actually do the thing you're set on doing. Obviously the first is important, but saying that it is more important than the miniscule differences in the second is absolutely ridiculous. In fact I'd say that mental ability (knowing what you're supposed to do, and where you're supposed to be) is also more important than physical ability in sports. You can see this simply by the amount of time that any pro spends on each of the things. Technique is far and away the most worked on thing for all athletes. There is a reason that sports have all of those stupid little drills for players. Because those teach you how to do the basics of the sport that you simply can not make up for with raw power. You absolutely have to have the technique down or else you're not worth anything.

Please see Chad Johnson playing in MLS as an example. Peak physical condition (at the time he was probably the most physically gifted receiver in the NFL), basic knowledge of the game (played in high school, and maybe college), 0 chance of ever playing above the training team.

Now then, if you're seriously going to continue to argue that physical ability trumps technique then I guess we can continue, but I'd really rather not.

So 99% of athletes quit by the time they're 35 because their obtained finesse and skill have magically gone away when you pass that age threshhold?
We can continue to do this, but you're only making a fool out of yourself if you keep repeating that professional athletes are not so far removed from the physical condition of a normal person that it's not even funny anymore.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 22:22:29
April 03 2015 22:22 GMT
#24047
On April 04 2015 07:19 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:11 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:58 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:37 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
[quote]
Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
[quote]
Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.

You were the one who started with the extremes, I'm not sure why were even having this discussion when you claim thing slike "most people dont know how to kick a ball".
I've played sports pleny of times before and I can confirm, people are indeed capable of performing the basic game actions.

I suppose since we're still here "Physical Ability" in the way I am using it means the raw power of the person in question. I am using it just as their basic physical stats (speed, strength, stamina, etc.) "Technique" on the other hand for me is the ability to actually do the thing you're set on doing. Obviously the first is important, but saying that it is more important than the miniscule differences in the second is absolutely ridiculous. In fact I'd say that mental ability (knowing what you're supposed to do, and where you're supposed to be) is also more important than physical ability in sports. You can see this simply by the amount of time that any pro spends on each of the things. Technique is far and away the most worked on thing for all athletes. There is a reason that sports have all of those stupid little drills for players. Because those teach you how to do the basics of the sport that you simply can not make up for with raw power. You absolutely have to have the technique down or else you're not worth anything.

Please see Chad Johnson playing in MLS as an example. Peak physical condition (at the time he was probably the most physically gifted receiver in the NFL), basic knowledge of the game (played in high school, and maybe college), 0 chance of ever playing above the training team.

Now then, if you're seriously going to continue to argue that physical ability trumps technique then I guess we can continue, but I'd really rather not.

So 99% of athletes quit by the time they're 35 because their obtained finesse and skill have magically gone away when you pass that age threshhold?
We can continue to do this, but you're only making a fool out of yourself if you keep repeating that professional athletes are not so far removed from the physical condition of a normal person that it's not even funny anymore.

Holy fucking shit are you incompetent?

Like seriously did you not read a word of what was said? Honestly please, please for the love of god, please fucking try to rub the brain cells in your head together long enough to understand this.

THEY CAN PLAY TILL THEY ARE 35 BECAUSE TECHNIQUE IS WHAT MATTERS. 35 IS NOT PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION. NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
April 03 2015 22:25 GMT
#24048
the last five pages of this thread LMFAO
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 03 2015 22:26 GMT
#24049
oh oh oh many of my colleagues at work are incompetent
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 03 2015 22:30 GMT
#24050
On April 04 2015 07:22 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:19 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 07:11 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:58 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:37 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
[quote]
i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
[quote]
Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.

You were the one who started with the extremes, I'm not sure why were even having this discussion when you claim thing slike "most people dont know how to kick a ball".
I've played sports pleny of times before and I can confirm, people are indeed capable of performing the basic game actions.

I suppose since we're still here "Physical Ability" in the way I am using it means the raw power of the person in question. I am using it just as their basic physical stats (speed, strength, stamina, etc.) "Technique" on the other hand for me is the ability to actually do the thing you're set on doing. Obviously the first is important, but saying that it is more important than the miniscule differences in the second is absolutely ridiculous. In fact I'd say that mental ability (knowing what you're supposed to do, and where you're supposed to be) is also more important than physical ability in sports. You can see this simply by the amount of time that any pro spends on each of the things. Technique is far and away the most worked on thing for all athletes. There is a reason that sports have all of those stupid little drills for players. Because those teach you how to do the basics of the sport that you simply can not make up for with raw power. You absolutely have to have the technique down or else you're not worth anything.

Please see Chad Johnson playing in MLS as an example. Peak physical condition (at the time he was probably the most physically gifted receiver in the NFL), basic knowledge of the game (played in high school, and maybe college), 0 chance of ever playing above the training team.

Now then, if you're seriously going to continue to argue that physical ability trumps technique then I guess we can continue, but I'd really rather not.

So 99% of athletes quit by the time they're 35 because their obtained finesse and skill have magically gone away when you pass that age threshhold?
We can continue to do this, but you're only making a fool out of yourself if you keep repeating that professional athletes are not so far removed from the physical condition of a normal person that it's not even funny anymore.

Holy fucking shit are you incompetent?

Like seriously did you not read a word of what was said? Honestly please, please for the love of god, please fucking try to rub the brain cells in your head together long enough to understand this.

THEY CAN PLAY TILL THEY ARE 35 BECAUSE TECHNIQUE IS WHAT MATTERS. 35 IS NOT PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION. NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

Please read through your post again and think what you would have done if someone else had written that post and you had stepped in as a moderator.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
April 03 2015 22:30 GMT
#24051
it's always summer
under the sea
i know i know
oh oh oh
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
April 03 2015 22:31 GMT
#24052
I don't even know what is going on this thread we moved on from breakfast to some debate P6 and some other guy was having then something about athletes and their technique.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 03 2015 22:34 GMT
#24053
while were at it, does anyone here want to pay me for a new pc so i can stream id even mod u on my stream as trial
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
April 03 2015 22:35 GMT
#24054
typical socialist eurotrash
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
April 03 2015 22:36 GMT
#24055
They wont let me view my grades asddgfdaasdafwdwdwsq
I am at extremes with my skills
On one end:
Teacher in math treks me that I'm college math levels and that I should take AP, low 90s in class
On the other end:
My French teacher has stopped asking me to answer questions because she wants kids to get the questions right, high 70s in class
Then there's English
Teacher routinely puts up essays at 10:00 pm the night before they are due, when his class is every other day
Is it so hard for him to tell us in class?
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
April 03 2015 22:39 GMT
#24056
On April 04 2015 07:34 teddyoojo wrote:
while were at it, does anyone here want to pay me for a new pc so i can stream id even mod u on my stream as trial

Beg Merkel for more Euros or open a Kickstarter.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
April 03 2015 22:39 GMT
#24057
On April 04 2015 07:22 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:19 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 07:11 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:58 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:37 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
[quote]
i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
[quote]
Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.

You were the one who started with the extremes, I'm not sure why were even having this discussion when you claim thing slike "most people dont know how to kick a ball".
I've played sports pleny of times before and I can confirm, people are indeed capable of performing the basic game actions.

I suppose since we're still here "Physical Ability" in the way I am using it means the raw power of the person in question. I am using it just as their basic physical stats (speed, strength, stamina, etc.) "Technique" on the other hand for me is the ability to actually do the thing you're set on doing. Obviously the first is important, but saying that it is more important than the miniscule differences in the second is absolutely ridiculous. In fact I'd say that mental ability (knowing what you're supposed to do, and where you're supposed to be) is also more important than physical ability in sports. You can see this simply by the amount of time that any pro spends on each of the things. Technique is far and away the most worked on thing for all athletes. There is a reason that sports have all of those stupid little drills for players. Because those teach you how to do the basics of the sport that you simply can not make up for with raw power. You absolutely have to have the technique down or else you're not worth anything.

Please see Chad Johnson playing in MLS as an example. Peak physical condition (at the time he was probably the most physically gifted receiver in the NFL), basic knowledge of the game (played in high school, and maybe college), 0 chance of ever playing above the training team.

Now then, if you're seriously going to continue to argue that physical ability trumps technique then I guess we can continue, but I'd really rather not.

So 99% of athletes quit by the time they're 35 because their obtained finesse and skill have magically gone away when you pass that age threshhold?
We can continue to do this, but you're only making a fool out of yourself if you keep repeating that professional athletes are not so far removed from the physical condition of a normal person that it's not even funny anymore.

Holy fucking shit are you incompetent?

Like seriously did you not read a word of what was said? Honestly please, please for the love of god, please fucking try to rub the brain cells in your head together long enough to understand this.

THEY CAN PLAY TILL THEY ARE 35 BECAUSE TECHNIQUE IS WHAT MATTERS. 35 IS NOT PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION. NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

So we're back to the point where physical condition matters so much that people who are at ~80% are incapable of competing?
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 03 2015 22:40 GMT
#24058
On April 04 2015 07:36 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
They wont let me view my grades asddgfdaasdafwdwdwsq
I am at extremes with my skills
On one end:
Teacher in math treks me that I'm college math levels and that I should take AP, low 90s in class
On the other end:
My French teacher has stopped asking me to answer questions because she wants kids to get the questions right, high 70s in class
Then there's English
Teacher routinely puts up essays at 10:00 pm the night before they are due, when his class is every other day
Is it so hard for him to tell us in class?

I don't see how skills are relevant to this situation.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 22:41:26
April 03 2015 22:41 GMT
#24059
On April 04 2015 07:30 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:22 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 07:19 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 07:11 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:58 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:37 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

[quote]
Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.

You were the one who started with the extremes, I'm not sure why were even having this discussion when you claim thing slike "most people dont know how to kick a ball".
I've played sports pleny of times before and I can confirm, people are indeed capable of performing the basic game actions.

I suppose since we're still here "Physical Ability" in the way I am using it means the raw power of the person in question. I am using it just as their basic physical stats (speed, strength, stamina, etc.) "Technique" on the other hand for me is the ability to actually do the thing you're set on doing. Obviously the first is important, but saying that it is more important than the miniscule differences in the second is absolutely ridiculous. In fact I'd say that mental ability (knowing what you're supposed to do, and where you're supposed to be) is also more important than physical ability in sports. You can see this simply by the amount of time that any pro spends on each of the things. Technique is far and away the most worked on thing for all athletes. There is a reason that sports have all of those stupid little drills for players. Because those teach you how to do the basics of the sport that you simply can not make up for with raw power. You absolutely have to have the technique down or else you're not worth anything.

Please see Chad Johnson playing in MLS as an example. Peak physical condition (at the time he was probably the most physically gifted receiver in the NFL), basic knowledge of the game (played in high school, and maybe college), 0 chance of ever playing above the training team.

Now then, if you're seriously going to continue to argue that physical ability trumps technique then I guess we can continue, but I'd really rather not.

So 99% of athletes quit by the time they're 35 because their obtained finesse and skill have magically gone away when you pass that age threshhold?
We can continue to do this, but you're only making a fool out of yourself if you keep repeating that professional athletes are not so far removed from the physical condition of a normal person that it's not even funny anymore.

Holy fucking shit are you incompetent?

Like seriously did you not read a word of what was said? Honestly please, please for the love of god, please fucking try to rub the brain cells in your head together long enough to understand this.

THEY CAN PLAY TILL THEY ARE 35 BECAUSE TECHNIQUE IS WHAT MATTERS. 35 IS NOT PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION. NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

Please read through your post again and think what you would have done if someone else had written that post and you had stepped in as a moderator.

i always find it funny that mods cant be reported
they are human after all prone to emotion
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 03 2015 22:41 GMT
#24060
On April 04 2015 07:30 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 07:22 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 07:19 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 07:11 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:58 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:37 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

[quote]
Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.

You were the one who started with the extremes, I'm not sure why were even having this discussion when you claim thing slike "most people dont know how to kick a ball".
I've played sports pleny of times before and I can confirm, people are indeed capable of performing the basic game actions.

I suppose since we're still here "Physical Ability" in the way I am using it means the raw power of the person in question. I am using it just as their basic physical stats (speed, strength, stamina, etc.) "Technique" on the other hand for me is the ability to actually do the thing you're set on doing. Obviously the first is important, but saying that it is more important than the miniscule differences in the second is absolutely ridiculous. In fact I'd say that mental ability (knowing what you're supposed to do, and where you're supposed to be) is also more important than physical ability in sports. You can see this simply by the amount of time that any pro spends on each of the things. Technique is far and away the most worked on thing for all athletes. There is a reason that sports have all of those stupid little drills for players. Because those teach you how to do the basics of the sport that you simply can not make up for with raw power. You absolutely have to have the technique down or else you're not worth anything.

Please see Chad Johnson playing in MLS as an example. Peak physical condition (at the time he was probably the most physically gifted receiver in the NFL), basic knowledge of the game (played in high school, and maybe college), 0 chance of ever playing above the training team.

Now then, if you're seriously going to continue to argue that physical ability trumps technique then I guess we can continue, but I'd really rather not.

So 99% of athletes quit by the time they're 35 because their obtained finesse and skill have magically gone away when you pass that age threshhold?
We can continue to do this, but you're only making a fool out of yourself if you keep repeating that professional athletes are not so far removed from the physical condition of a normal person that it's not even funny anymore.

Holy fucking shit are you incompetent?

Like seriously did you not read a word of what was said? Honestly please, please for the love of god, please fucking try to rub the brain cells in your head together long enough to understand this.

THEY CAN PLAY TILL THEY ARE 35 BECAUSE TECHNIQUE IS WHAT MATTERS. 35 IS NOT PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION. NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

Please read through your post again and think what you would have done if someone else had written that post and you had stepped in as a moderator.

If another mod wants to action the post, they can feel free to. I'm not going to be continuing the discussion regardless after that so it's all moot at this point.
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