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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
April 03 2015 21:30 GMT
#23981
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability

Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2015 21:30 GMT
#23982
On April 04 2015 06:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.
you personally disagreeing with the emotional/principle-based aspect of his reasoning doesn't make it invalid

Sure it does, it makes it STUPID in my opinion. There is no objectivity in my opinion, because my opinion is always correct for me. That's why I said he was "looking at this the wrong way", as in, not from my point of view.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 03 2015 21:30 GMT
#23983
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 03 2015 21:30 GMT
#23984
On April 04 2015 05:52 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 05:48 Comeh wrote:
On April 04 2015 05:40 eieio wrote:
I wanna see yung lean at pemberton so bad I don't even care about like 80% of the groups playing it either

I hear he is really bad live - but the crowd just goes FULL HAM and goes crazy so you go to get fucked up and jump and go HAM

I'm sure he's awful live lol I still wanna see him SO BAD HOLY SHIT

holy shit he is performing at pemberton
lmao
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 03 2015 21:31 GMT
#23985
On April 04 2015 06:30 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
his confusion is directly related to the word choice issues i pointed out

quoting because fuck being the last post on a page
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 03 2015 21:32 GMT
#23986
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Show nested quote +
Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 21:33:55
April 03 2015 21:33 GMT
#23987
I'm actually confused about what you guys are arguing about lol


On April 04 2015 06:30 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 05:52 eieio wrote:
On April 04 2015 05:48 Comeh wrote:
On April 04 2015 05:40 eieio wrote:
I wanna see yung lean at pemberton so bad I don't even care about like 80% of the groups playing it either

I hear he is really bad live - but the crowd just goes FULL HAM and goes crazy so you go to get fucked up and jump and go HAM

I'm sure he's awful live lol I still wanna see him SO BAD HOLY SHIT

holy shit he is performing at pemberton
lmao

I actually kinda really want to go but the ticket price seems pretty high for that lineup idk
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TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2015 21:33 GMT
#23988
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 03 2015 21:33 GMT
#23989
I dunno look at messi the guy is abasically a hobbit yet he goes around schooling people and embarassing them I mean come on man
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
April 03 2015 21:34 GMT
#23990
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 03 2015 21:34 GMT
#23991
there could also be the confounding factor of varying definitions of "physical ability," ones that include or don't include things such as aptitude for developing muscle memor, i.e., learning techniques.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 03 2015 21:35 GMT
#23992
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

Why wouldn't you cam for gay people? You're not having sex with them.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 03 2015 21:35 GMT
#23993
what do you guys think about aghs on tree
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TL+ Member
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 21:38:49
April 03 2015 21:36 GMT
#23994
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

if you can't respect the similarities, which you clearly don't, i say the same to you.

for people with principles more developed than "sex is clearly the most sacred of all types of human interaction and thus special in some way in terms of paying for interaction," it should be clear how "whoring" can extend beyond sexual interaction
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 21:39:05
April 03 2015 21:37 GMT
#23995
On April 04 2015 06:34 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:32 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:29 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

i think by lowest you mean "most basic"

Yeah, thanks. Not that it isn't important, but between certain points you're all the same anyways.

On April 04 2015 06:26 dismiss wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Jinxed wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:19 dismiss wrote:
Despite its name ESPORTS is not actually a sport. It's really funny to me how people always bring up that comparison when it's beyond asinine.

Lack of skill is a more glaring fault when it comes to something like a video game where other skills are way more important than your physical aptitude.

Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability.

Ye, okay. That's why there are so many fat pro players?

Yes because that is exactly what I said. 10/10 reading comprehension again cynic.


Physical aptitude is one of the lowest requirements to being 'good' at a sport. It helps, but most sports are considerably more technique than they are pure physical ability


If you don't know how to kick a ball it doesn't matter how strong you actually are? Have you ever played a sport?

How is this difficult? I'm legitimately curious.

Someone who doens't know how to kick a ball while still manage to propel it further than someone whose muscles have atrophied completely.
Once again you fail at basic logical reasoning. The vast majority of people have at least a basic concept of how to play a sport, where as very few are at the pinacle of human physical condition.

I can assure you that very few people actually know how to kick a ball. Believe me I've seen enough of the average player to understand that.

Again, have you ever even played a sport? Because I'd love to know where your "knowledge" is coming from.

Also the extremes in your example are hilarious btw. While managing to be completely irrelevant to this conversation.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2015 21:39 GMT
#23996
On April 04 2015 06:35 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

Why wouldn't you cam for gay people? You're not having sex with them.

If you can't tell the differences between cam shows and playing dota with fans for money, and how that comparison might be slightly hyperbolic, I cannot help you. The only similarity is that there are multiple people involved and money.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 21:41:32
April 03 2015 21:40 GMT
#23997
On April 04 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:35 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

Why wouldn't you cam for gay people? You're not having sex with them.

If you can't tell the differences between cam shows and playing dota with fans for money, and how that comparison might be slightly hyperbolic, I cannot help you. The only similarity is that there are multiple people involved and money.

On April 04 2015 06:36 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

if you can't respect the similarities, which you clearly don't, i say the same to you.

for people with principles more developed than "sex is clearly the most sacred of all types of human interaction and thus special in some way in terms of paying for interaction," it should be clear how "whoring" can extend beyond sexual interaction

note that i am writing this from an idealistic sex-positive perspective in which actual whoring isn't particularly bad in the first place, though obviously i can understand why one would have principle-based objections to it
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2015 21:43 GMT
#23998
On April 04 2015 06:40 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:35 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

Why wouldn't you cam for gay people? You're not having sex with them.

If you can't tell the differences between cam shows and playing dota with fans for money, and how that comparison might be slightly hyperbolic, I cannot help you. The only similarity is that there are multiple people involved and money.

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On April 04 2015 06:36 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

if you can't respect the similarities, which you clearly don't, i say the same to you.

for people with principles more developed than "sex is clearly the most sacred of all types of human interaction and thus special in some way in terms of paying for interaction," it should be clear how "whoring" can extend beyond sexual interaction



whore

debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money.
"he had never whored after money"

He considers playing with fans debasing himself for money. I think thats sort of a bullshit point of view and pretty dumb. What is the confusion?
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 03 2015 21:43 GMT
#23999
On April 04 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
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On April 04 2015 06:35 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

Why wouldn't you cam for gay people? You're not having sex with them.

If you can't tell the differences between cam shows and playing dota with fans for money, and how that comparison might be slightly hyperbolic, I cannot help you. The only similarity is that there are multiple people involved and money.

Make the distinction, please. I believe you won't, so...

You're refusing to because you can't put it clearly into words, and you can't clearly put it into words because there is no difference. You believe that camming for gay men is personally degrading, and you know what? I not only respect your belief, but also agree with you. I wouldn't ever do it, myself, but I also recognize that some people don't find it degrading and respect their choice to do it. There is nothing inherently degrading about coaching or about camming for gay men, and EternalEnvy's feelings that it is degrading to coach are entirely worth respecting. Calling them "stupid" means that, logically, you must believe that your own decision to not gay cam is stupid. Otherwise, you have contradicted yourself and are being hypocritical.
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 03 2015 21:45 GMT
#24000
On April 04 2015 06:40 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:35 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

Why wouldn't you cam for gay people? You're not having sex with them.

If you can't tell the differences between cam shows and playing dota with fans for money, and how that comparison might be slightly hyperbolic, I cannot help you. The only similarity is that there are multiple people involved and money.

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 06:36 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:30 Acritter wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2015 06:18 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
plansix got lawyered

EDIT and still continues to miss the point. he would be a whore precisely because people want him in particular, not coaching in general, which is not his primary profession in the first place. what part of this don't you understand? his gripe isn't that he wouldn't be a good coach, his gripe is that people want him not for coaching per se but for paid interaction with him.

No, I totally got that part, its really not that complicated. I just think its dumb to leave money on the table like that. Maybe don't charge $50 for two hours per person, but he could play with fans that want to pay to play. Saying he is whoring himself out by doing so its just hyperbolic and stupid. If he doesn't want to, just say so and don't try to gussy it up with some weird excuse.

You could probably go and literally whore yourself out for money. If by no other means, you might be able to do camshows for gay men. Assuming you could, why wouldn't you? Let's say your wife would understand that it's dumb to leave money on the table like that.

If you can't tell the difference between playing Dota fans and having sex with people for money, I'm not sure I can help you in this discussion.

if you can't respect the similarities, which you clearly don't, i say the same to you.

for people with principles more developed than "sex is clearly the most sacred of all types of human interaction and thus special in some way in terms of paying for interaction," it should be clear how "whoring" can extend beyond sexual interaction

note that i am writing this from an idealistic sex-positive perspective in which actual whoring isn't particularly bad in the first place, though obviously i can understand why one would have principle-based objections to it


regardless of your beliefs, it's illegal/gray in many jurisdictions
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