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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 18:01 GMT
#23141
On April 01 2015 02:57 Comeh wrote:
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On April 01 2015 02:55 Targe wrote:
i hate streamers with those super big mics

Yeah for some reason that really bothers me - unless they are hosting some kind of talkshow or radiowhatever where its more justifiable - but when its some 14 year old playing call of duty idk....

Any stand up mic is going to be huge. It hard to get a good mic that is also small for a reasonable price. And streaming with a headset on for hours sucks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:02 GMT
#23142
On April 01 2015 03:01 Targe wrote:
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On April 01 2015 02:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:58 Targe wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:57 Comeh wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:55 Targe wrote:
i hate streamers with those super big mics

Yeah for some reason that really bothers me - unless they are hosting some kind of talkshow or radiowhatever where its more justifiable - but when its some 14 year old playing call of duty idk....

FUCK me that kid witht he hat and the big mic who streams cod annoys me so god damn much

guys i dont know who testie is

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Testie

Really old ex-BW pro, now he plays Dota 2.

age: 30

wow what an old man lamo

Daigo is 33 and going strong.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 18:04:31
March 31 2015 18:03 GMT
#23143
On April 01 2015 03:00 andyrau wrote:
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On April 01 2015 02:55 goody153 wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:50 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:46 goody153 wrote:
what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)

They receive no where near the same amount of subs/donations as waga. And the stream viewer numbers really aren't that much higher on average. Usually once waga is on for a few hours he has like 5-10k right? Anyway waga has a sub counter on the top right everyday and I always see it at like 20-40+. He just started today and it's already 1 sub, lol.

Not to mention the constant stream of donation messages coming in. He's definitely making more than most pros/casters doing this.

idk man you'll see rtz/dendi/sing like close to 30k viewers sometimes and that's with many other streamers streaming sometimes even with waga and adb on the field

but idk if any of them outside gets a lot of subs

i think it's pretty pointless either way to compare dota 2 twitch culture to the rest of the site
it's only been a recent thing where people have started accepting donations and thanking people for subs. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not because there's always been some kind of weird stigma against 'selling out' in dota, but monetizing viewers with donations is kind of a grey area for me


i have no issue with donations tbh, if other ppl want to waste their cash for 10s of fun its fine by me

when that donation then pops up over the screen with a big overlay and sounds play thats a problem for me as a viewer

On April 01 2015 03:02 SKC wrote:
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On April 01 2015 03:01 Targe wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:58 Targe wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:57 Comeh wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:55 Targe wrote:
i hate streamers with those super big mics

Yeah for some reason that really bothers me - unless they are hosting some kind of talkshow or radiowhatever where its more justifiable - but when its some 14 year old playing call of duty idk....

FUCK me that kid witht he hat and the big mic who streams cod annoys me so god damn much

guys i dont know who testie is

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Testie

Really old ex-BW pro, now he plays Dota 2.

age: 30

wow what an old man lamo

Daigo is 33 and going strong.


who the fuck is daigo? probly some noob who plays ssbb or som other shit game i imagine
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 31 2015 18:03 GMT
#23144
On April 01 2015 03:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:57 Comeh wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:55 Targe wrote:
i hate streamers with those super big mics

Yeah for some reason that really bothers me - unless they are hosting some kind of talkshow or radiowhatever where its more justifiable - but when its some 14 year old playing call of duty idk....

Any stand up mic is going to be huge. It hard to get a good mic that is also small for a reasonable price. And streaming with a headset on for hours sucks.


I love my hyper x cloud. the sound quality from the mic is great and the headset is really comfortable. I played TLIH all day while wearing glasses and was never uncomfortable.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 18:04 GMT
#23145
On April 01 2015 03:00 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:55 goody153 wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:50 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:46 goody153 wrote:
what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)

They receive no where near the same amount of subs/donations as waga. And the stream viewer numbers really aren't that much higher on average. Usually once waga is on for a few hours he has like 5-10k right? Anyway waga has a sub counter on the top right everyday and I always see it at like 20-40+. He just started today and it's already 1 sub, lol.

Not to mention the constant stream of donation messages coming in. He's definitely making more than most pros/casters doing this.

idk man you'll see rtz/dendi/sing like close to 30k viewers sometimes and that's with many other streamers streaming sometimes even with waga and adb on the field

but idk if any of them outside gets a lot of subs

i think it's pretty pointless either way to compare dota 2 twitch culture to the rest of the site
it's only been a recent thing where people have started accepting donations and thanking people for subs. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not because there's always been some kind of weird stigma against 'selling out' in dota, but monetizing viewers with donations is kind of a grey area for me

I think its fine. Its like street performers or bands when they accept donations after a live set. Twitch is more like live performance that it is a regular show and people are just learning how cash in on that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 31 2015 18:04 GMT
#23146
On April 01 2015 03:01 SKC wrote:
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On April 01 2015 02:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but testie never actually went anywhere in hon beyond laddering a lot and streaming a lot right?
Wagamamma style except before streaming was quite so popular/profitable?

Like he never spent any substantial amount of time on a top team before disbanding again iirc.

I'm pretty sure he was quite sucessfull in some teams, a lot more than Waga in Dota 2. Streaming probally made him more money though.

Streaming made him decent money but his business made him WAY more than streaming. He streamed his business though so I guess you can connect them.

For people that don't know he was extremely successful in HoN with his business where people paid to play with him. Like they actually pay him like $20 an hour to get carried.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 31 2015 18:04 GMT
#23147
ive streamed for hours with a headset :|
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44289 Posts
March 31 2015 18:06 GMT
#23148
On April 01 2015 03:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:55 goody153 wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:50 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:46 goody153 wrote:
what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)

They receive no where near the same amount of subs/donations as waga. And the stream viewer numbers really aren't that much higher on average. Usually once waga is on for a few hours he has like 5-10k right? Anyway waga has a sub counter on the top right everyday and I always see it at like 20-40+. He just started today and it's already 1 sub, lol.

Not to mention the constant stream of donation messages coming in. He's definitely making more than most pros/casters doing this.

idk man you'll see rtz/dendi/sing like close to 30k viewers sometimes and that's with many other streamers streaming sometimes even with waga and adb on the field

but idk if any of them outside gets a lot of subs

Well I think having 30k viewers means less than getting massive donations and getting constant subs to your channel, although I may be underestimating the money that viewers bring in (if they don't adblock huehue). Like waga consistently gets some pretty big donations.

If i think about that waga streams more than the 3 it's probably that waga gets more cash than them even though they have a much bigger viewers count most of the time.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 18:06 GMT
#23149
On April 01 2015 03:04 Targe wrote:
ive streamed for hours with a headset :|

Some people don't like it. I have glasses and every headset I have purchased fucks up the side of my head. It is not enjoyable.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 31 2015 18:06 GMT
#23150
If you have nice headphones and a mic its no problem at all, although the gamburger gaming headsets probably get uncomfortable fast.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 18:07:35
March 31 2015 18:07 GMT
#23151
On April 01 2015 03:04 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:01 SKC wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but testie never actually went anywhere in hon beyond laddering a lot and streaming a lot right?
Wagamamma style except before streaming was quite so popular/profitable?

Like he never spent any substantial amount of time on a top team before disbanding again iirc.

I'm pretty sure he was quite sucessfull in some teams, a lot more than Waga in Dota 2. Streaming probally made him more money though.

Streaming made him decent money but his business made him WAY more than streaming. He streamed his business though so I guess you can connect them.

For people that don't know he was extremely successful in HoN with his business where people paid to play with him. Like they actually pay him like $20 an hour to get carried.

Yeah, i meant the whole thing with streaming. He started a bit too early to make huge amounts of money with streaming alone I think.

And Daigo is the most renowned Street Fighter player of all time.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2015 18:07 GMT
#23152
HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHO TESTIE IS WHATS WRONG WITH U
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 18:09:54
March 31 2015 18:08 GMT
#23153
On April 01 2015 02:57 TheEmulator wrote:
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On April 01 2015 02:53 Comeh wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:53 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:47 SKC wrote:
Is Testie is raking in the sweet HoN money?

I'm assuming you meant "Is Testie still"?

If so, no he's not. He's pretty much 100% done with HoN after he quit for a few months to heal his back injuries. He hasn't streamed in forever and he's currently only playing dota 2 afaik. Think he's trying to land himself on a team since he's 6k MMR now and starting to a hang of the game.

dang he's already 6k?

I wonder how good he is compared to um, I guess moonmeander? Is that comparable?

Well Moon has like a year more experience already with just being solely a dota 2 player so he's probably better atm. He also has dota 2 comp experience and NEL experience, etc. Testie's techincally played Dota 2 for a while but just with friends, he's only recently switched and taken ranked seriously. Think he calibrated at like 4.5k, now he's 6k. I didn't play or follow HoN so I'm not sure who was better at that game. Testie is talented though so I'm sure he will do somewhat decently although I have no idea if he will reach the same level he was in HoN.


testie was a really good player, moon was like a SingSing who sometimes found himself on t2-ish teams and one time got 4th on LAN.

what im trying to say is that testie was way better at hon than moon.

everyone flamed testie style for being boring but he was kind of like a less flashy rtz. he farmed out of this world, never missed CS and would even play stuff like carries mid etc. He got a bad reputation for that but in reality, he was super good. while moon was mostly just a character and streamed a lot before twitch etc., and had a big following for his wacky shit.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:08 GMT
#23154
who is testie?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 31 2015 18:08 GMT
#23155
For anyone that doesn't understand the greatness that is Testie just watch his Angry Testie videos on youtube. There's like 50 of them and they are all great.

example:

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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 31 2015 18:09 GMT
#23156
On April 01 2015 03:07 teddyoojo wrote:
HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHO TESTIE IS WHATS WRONG WITH U

i started playing sc2 in 2012?
i didnt touch bw till 2008?
wc3 was me massing towers as orcs online and playing lan custom maps?
when i played dota for the first time i thought it was one of those rpg story maps?

iono maybe i have no background in reel gaming?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:10 GMT
#23157
Testie created great moments even in OG Dota.

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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 31 2015 18:10 GMT
#23158
On April 01 2015 03:08 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:57 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:53 Comeh wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:53 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:47 SKC wrote:
Is Testie is raking in the sweet HoN money?

I'm assuming you meant "Is Testie still"?

If so, no he's not. He's pretty much 100% done with HoN after he quit for a few months to heal his back injuries. He hasn't streamed in forever and he's currently only playing dota 2 afaik. Think he's trying to land himself on a team since he's 6k MMR now and starting to a hang of the game.

dang he's already 6k?

I wonder how good he is compared to um, I guess moonmeander? Is that comparable?

Well Moon has like a year more experience already with just being solely a dota 2 player so he's probably better atm. He also has dota 2 comp experience and NEL experience, etc. Testie's techincally played Dota 2 for a while but just with friends, he's only recently switched and taken ranked seriously. Think he calibrated at like 4.5k, now he's 6k. I didn't play or follow HoN so I'm not sure who was better at that game. Testie is talented though so I'm sure he will do somewhat decently although I have no idea if he will reach the same level he was in HoN.


testie was like EG level hon, moon was like a SingSing who sometimes found himself on t2-ish teams and one time got 4th on LAN.

what im trying to say is that testie was way better at hon than moon.

everyone flamed testie style for being boring but he was kind of like a less flashy rtz. he farmed out of this world, never missed CS and would even play stuff like carries mid etc. He got a bad reputation for that but in reality, he was super good. while moon was mostly just a character and streamed a lot before twitch etc., and had a big following for his wacky shit.

Yeah I know quite a bit about Testie's background/playstyle just not Moon's. But the part about Moon helps, thanks.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 31 2015 18:11 GMT
#23159
Testies only claim to fame is dt dropping midas one game in WCG 2008? Really not too interesting.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2015 18:11 GMT
#23160
also testie was good in hon back when it mattered for something while moon wasnt relevant until noone gave a fuck anymore
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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