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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 31 2015 17:43 GMT
#23101
it's really hard to understand plansix as a person.

he seems to get annoyed if you are offensive with language but seems to not give a shit if you're an epic douchelord who exploits people for money. if you make jokes about cancer, you should really think twice because you might hurt someones feelings, but if you lie and take peoples money, don't worry about it, you're successful, haters gonna hate.

my fucking head.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2015 17:43 GMT
#23102
literally typing "testie incontrol" in google
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 31 2015 17:43 GMT
#23103
whatever dude incontrol's rich
i bet that amazon payout was amazing
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 17:44 GMT
#23104
On April 01 2015 02:42 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:16 TheEmulator wrote:
I just wish I was Wagamama. He's so dreamy and he lives off streaming and gets huge donations. Probably gets paid to go to TI each year as well


me too, man. I believe he's living the dream more than any professional player.

make your own schedule is a huge upside, and he always gets donations and subs. he must make a killing off of what he does.

I would imagine being a superiormoba streamer would be even greater in terms of monetary gain tho

Unclear. That market is saturated to all hell and back, while he is the only man really living the dream in Dota 2.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2015 17:44 GMT
#23105
if anyone can be said to really abuse EG money it was Machine. wtf did that guy even do.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 31 2015 17:46 GMT
#23106
On April 01 2015 02:43 andyrau wrote:
whatever dude incontrol's rich
i bet that amazon payout was amazing

iNcontroL and Anna Prosser apparently cried when they got the news GGA was acquired by Amazon so I guess the money was quite a bit if you tear up about it.

On April 01 2015 02:44 SKC wrote:
if anyone can be said to really abuse EG money it was Machine. wtf did that guy even do.

Basically coaching and support. During that LAN EG was in prior to DAC Machine was right behind them.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44289 Posts
March 31 2015 17:46 GMT
#23107
what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)
this is a quote
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 17:48:20
March 31 2015 17:46 GMT
#23108
On April 01 2015 02:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:42 BluemoonSC wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:16 TheEmulator wrote:
I just wish I was Wagamama. He's so dreamy and he lives off streaming and gets huge donations. Probably gets paid to go to TI each year as well


me too, man. I believe he's living the dream more than any professional player.

make your own schedule is a huge upside, and he always gets donations and subs. he must make a killing off of what he does.

I would imagine being a superiormoba streamer would be even greater in terms of monetary gain tho

Unclear. That market is saturated to all hell and back, while he is the only man really living the dream in Dota 2.


while true, if you're the top streamer in LoL I would bet that your numbers and donations are likely to be higher.

On April 01 2015 02:46 goody153 wrote:
what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)


they don't stream regularly enough. RTZ just started donations so perhaps he will get enough.

I think in order to really get money off donations, you have to be willing to read every donation. with bulldog and sing, people just wanna say ridiculous shit and get it read on stream. if people notice they aren't getting acknowledged they are gonna be less likely to repeatedly donate.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 17:48:09
March 31 2015 17:46 GMT
#23109
It's funny because it's actually word for word from an argument they had.

edit:the testie/inc thing
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2015 17:47 GMT
#23110
Is Testie is raking in the sweet HoN money?
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 31 2015 17:49 GMT
#23111


I think I got warned for linking it or some shit when Testie tried to argue that he'd be the greatest Dota2 withing a month of him switching.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 31 2015 17:50 GMT
#23112
On April 01 2015 02:44 SKC wrote:
if anyone can be said to really abuse EG money it was Machine. wtf did that guy even do.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Machine#Achievements

holy shit i bet that guy got a gigantic payout too
wasn't the payout based on seniority with eg? machine and incontrol are surely the longest standing members of that org right?
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 31 2015 17:50 GMT
#23113
On April 01 2015 02:49 dismiss wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hH8SXJoMHY

I think I got warned for linking it or some shit when Testie tried to argue that he'd be the greatest Dota2 withing a month of him switching.

Its actually so good though, and pretty accurate about incontrol tbh.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 31 2015 17:50 GMT
#23114
On April 01 2015 02:46 goody153 wrote:
what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)

They receive no where near the same amount of subs/donations as waga. And the stream viewer numbers really aren't that much higher on average. Usually once waga is on for a few hours he has like 5-10k right? Anyway waga has a sub counter on the top right everyday and I always see it at like 20-40+. He just started today and it's already 1 sub, lol.

Not to mention the constant stream of donation messages coming in. He's definitely making more than most pros/casters doing this.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2015 17:52 GMT
#23115
Streamers always get more money per viewers than players. Bulldog and co probally are closer to Waga than RTZ and Dendi.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 31 2015 17:52 GMT
#23116
If you want Esports money, just make sure you have a donation reader that can say "W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W"
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 17:53:46
March 31 2015 17:53 GMT
#23117
On April 01 2015 02:47 SKC wrote:
Is Testie is raking in the sweet HoN money?

I'm assuming you meant "Is Testie still"?

If so, no he's not. He's pretty much 100% done with HoN after he quit for a few months to heal his back injuries. He hasn't streamed in forever and he's currently only playing dota 2 afaik. Think he's trying to land himself on a team since he's 6k MMR now and starting to get a hang of the game.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 31 2015 17:53 GMT
#23118
no rtz's been getting ac razy amount of donations ever since he started taking them
but the problem is his internet in wherever he moved to isn't fast enough to support streaming now lmao
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 31 2015 17:53 GMT
#23119
On April 01 2015 02:53 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 02:47 SKC wrote:
Is Testie is raking in the sweet HoN money?

I'm assuming you meant "Is Testie still"?

If so, no he's not. He's pretty much 100% done with HoN after he quit for a few months to heal his back injuries. He hasn't streamed in forever and he's currently only playing dota 2 afaik. Think he's trying to land himself on a team since he's 6k MMR now and starting to a hang of the game.

dang he's already 6k?

I wonder how good he is compared to um, I guess moonmeander? Is that comparable?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 17:54 GMT
#23120
On April 01 2015 02:43 crms wrote:
it's really hard to understand plansix as a person.

he seems to get annoyed if you are offensive with language but seems to not give a shit if you're an epic douchelord who exploits people for money. if you make jokes about cancer, you should really think twice because you might hurt someones feelings, but if you lie and take peoples money, don't worry about it, you're successful, haters gonna hate.

my fucking head.

Normally I ignore your posts when you get on your hate train, but since this one addressed me directly, I'll respond this.

I don't really think they "exploited people" as much as were young kids that got large fan bases and didn't know what to do with them. Everyone from Artosis to Incontrol were guys trying to make a living and generally pumped about Esport shit. They got into things that didn't pan out and sometimes got their fans burned. I have never thought they did it on purpose and I don't think they really harmed in any long lasting way. I know this because I see every day what deception and people making mistakes can do to their lives. I know because I'm the one who gets to help clean up the mess.

That's the difference between you and me. I think the best of people, you think the worst.
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