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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 18:43:30
March 23 2015 18:41 GMT
#21081
On March 24 2015 03:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hmm?
Step 1: set ur 120hz monitor to 120hz. wiggle mouse in a smallish circle
Step 2: set ur 120hz monitor to 60hz. wiggle mouse in a smallish circle
difference is noticeable.
GOD FORBID you try 30hz
i literally went to a store, saw a sick-ass 4K monitor on demo, was like "sweet lemme check this out" touched the mouse and was instantly shocked by how awful it was. It took me a few seconds to realize that it was being hdmi 1.4 driven so 30hz so fukcing disaster

u dont notice as much when u don't really have a cursor and/or are stuck to joystick controls I guess.

Well also how noticeable framerate differences are depends on the amount of actual movement. Even 10 fps can look smooth if the amount of motion involved is small enough. Most movie theaters are like 24 FPS, and it's not like that ever bothers anybody because most movies have relatively slow/smooth movements of the objects being perceived. It's the same for a lot of games too, though it depends on the kinds of games you play.

Mouse+keyboard vs. gamepad controls contributes to that though because generally mouse/keyboard generally allows for faster/more sudden movements so it's more likely for you to get rapid changes in perspective that look choppy at low frame rates.

On March 24 2015 03:09 SKC wrote:
"Tests with Air force pilots have shown, that they could identify the plane on a flashed picture that was flashed only for 1/220th of a second."

0,0045s is quite short.

Presence/absence of an object is much easier to detect than "choppy" movement though. LIke in old films, the actual movement can look relatively fluid but a dust speck on a single frame of the film can be really jarring.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 23 2015 18:43 GMT
#21082
movies have 24fps because they have motion blur so fps in this medium doesn't matter as much
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 23 2015 18:44 GMT
#21083
On March 24 2015 03:43 andyrau wrote:
movies have 24fps because they have motion blur so fps in this medium doesn't matter as much

y dont ppl understand this
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 18:46 GMT
#21084
On March 24 2015 03:32 Comeh wrote:


For those wondering

I do what I can. He stopped bitching, so it sort of back fired. I was enjoying him whining about Hot-bid and company trolling him.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 23 2015 18:50 GMT
#21085
toby has always been a special snowflake.
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 18:51:37
March 23 2015 18:51 GMT
#21086
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
March 23 2015 18:53 GMT
#21087
On March 24 2015 03:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 03:32 Comeh wrote:
https://twitter.com/Fkeefeiv/status/580052749410254849

For those wondering

I do what I can. He stopped bitching, so it sort of back fired. I was enjoying him whining about Hot-bid and company trolling him.

Idk where this hate for Tobi is coming from on this one, I also found this issue of ESEX unfounded, especially when his comment was a side note everybody's blowing out of proportion and everybody is taking it the way they want anyway.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 23 2015 18:54 GMT
#21088
point is that it's satire and ur not supposed to take it seriously and if u do ur a fucking clown
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 18:58 GMT
#21089
On March 24 2015 03:53 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 03:46 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2015 03:32 Comeh wrote:
https://twitter.com/Fkeefeiv/status/580052749410254849

For those wondering

I do what I can. He stopped bitching, so it sort of back fired. I was enjoying him whining about Hot-bid and company trolling him.

Idk where this hate for Tobi is coming from on this one, I also found this issue of ESEX unfounded, especially when his comment was a side note everybody's blowing out of proportion and everybody is taking it the way they want anyway.

Do you not watch the Daily Show? What part of satire is confusing? Also, the article was mocking the COMMUNITY more that Tobi himself.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 23 2015 18:58 GMT
#21090
he is just annoyed that everyone is saying he is ditching Dota. It didn't help when ESEX tweeted that they were just stating facts. In the end this drama is so meaningless by Tobi standards, he can do so much more.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
March 23 2015 18:59 GMT
#21091
On March 24 2015 03:54 andyrau wrote:
point is that it's satire and ur not supposed to take it seriously and if u do ur a fucking clown

Yeah, but I think the idea is, why turn a serious or a personal matter into a satire. It's probably just me, but I agreed with Tobi's comment and I find making a joke out of it to be an attempt at discrediting it as a non-issue.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 19:00:44
March 23 2015 18:59 GMT
#21092
i think a lot of the hate for tobi expressed was just residual hate re-emerging anyway. it's like "oh this guy's the talk of the town again, let me blather on about why he sucks again"

Yeah, but I think the idea is, why turn a serious or a personal matter into a satire. It's probably just me, but I agreed with Tobi's comment and I find making a joke out of it to be an attempt at discrediting it as a non-issue.

i dont get how any of this is actually serious
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 19:02:46
March 23 2015 19:00 GMT
#21093
On March 24 2015 03:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 03:53 makmeatt wrote:
On March 24 2015 03:46 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2015 03:32 Comeh wrote:
https://twitter.com/Fkeefeiv/status/580052749410254849

For those wondering

I do what I can. He stopped bitching, so it sort of back fired. I was enjoying him whining about Hot-bid and company trolling him.

Idk where this hate for Tobi is coming from on this one, I also found this issue of ESEX unfounded, especially when his comment was a side note everybody's blowing out of proportion and everybody is taking it the way they want anyway.

Do you not watch the Daily Show? What part of satire is confusing? Also, the article was mocking the COMMUNITY more that Tobi himself.

That's fair enough, I jumped to conclusions too quickly, as usual.

On March 24 2015 03:59 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i think a lot of the hate for tobi expressed was just residual hate re-emerging anyway. it's like "oh this guy's the talk of the town again, let me blather on about why he sucks again"

Show nested quote +
Yeah, but I think the idea is, why turn a serious or a personal matter into a satire. It's probably just me, but I agreed with Tobi's comment and I find making a joke out of it to be an attempt at discrediting it as a non-issue.

i dont get how any of this is actually serious

Idk, I just don't like people making fun of issues like this, I thought that maybe some serious discussion would emerge from this (oh, how naive of me!), but with this article I lost hope, everybody's just gonna wave hand at it.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 19:04:12
March 23 2015 19:03 GMT
#21094
you guys know that esports personalities are constantly doing and saying stupid shit for precisely this reason? to drive traffic and make the internet communities talk about them? it's all just clickbait.
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 23 2015 19:05 GMT
#21095
i'm still confused which "issue" you're talking about. tobi moving to cs:go? tobi's tweet about "immaturity and passion for mindless hate"? like reddit attempts to be "serious" about this in this thread but it's all the same shit

the main issue of trying to have a "serious discussion" about a "community problem" is that the people discussing things "seriously" have very little influence over the "problem" so it's just all impotent discussion in the end
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 23 2015 19:05 GMT
#21096
I particularly liked nigma's response: https://twitter.com/NigmaNoname/status/580059355850125312/photo/1

but yeah, if you cant notice the difference between 120hz and 60hz monitors, you are someone that doesn't care about the difference..it's not that the difference isn't noticeable.

another thing I don't understand is why people whip out their dicks and say "yeah you know my computer can handle 300fps" but they don't have a monitor that can actually display that framerate.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 23 2015 19:08 GMT
#21097
reddits stupid
tobi is stupid
reddit is probably dumber
tobi is a good caster
but hes still an idiot
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
March 23 2015 19:08 GMT
#21098
is twitch actually going down right as bulldog is about to cast [A] damn that is some serious illuminati shit
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 23 2015 19:09 GMT
#21099
On March 24 2015 04:08 l3loodraven wrote:
is twitch actually going down right as bulldog is about to cast [A] damn that is some serious illuminati shit

i feel like it's been clear there's a cabal of dota haters who DDOS high profile dota all the time (especially c9 games) but nobody talks about it. not that anything can be done from our ends.
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
March 23 2015 19:10 GMT
#21100
we must sunder this cabal team
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
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