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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 27 2021 20:06 GMT
#209881
On December 24 2021 17:07 TheEmulator wrote:
I added him.

I'm usually around quite often to read this thread and a few others on TL, so if anyone has a suggestion or something they want added literally just ask and I can probably help out. Unfortunately some stuff might require R1CH's help (like adding flairs/heroes), but I can still do most things with my admin tools.

edit: Also Sn0 are you up to date on WoT? Curious what you thought of EP 8...

Just watched ep 8 last night.

Honestly, I think I just expected too much. Its probably fine TV it's just not the Wheel of Time as I envisaged it.

I'll watch S2 etc i'm just not as excited as I hoped i'd be.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28096 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-27 22:29:48
December 27 2021 22:04 GMT
#209882
On December 28 2021 05:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2021 17:07 TheEmulator wrote:
I added him.

I'm usually around quite often to read this thread and a few others on TL, so if anyone has a suggestion or something they want added literally just ask and I can probably help out. Unfortunately some stuff might require R1CH's help (like adding flairs/heroes), but I can still do most things with my admin tools.

edit: Also Sn0 are you up to date on WoT? Curious what you thought of EP 8...

Just watched ep 8 last night.

Honestly, I think I just expected too much. Its probably fine TV it's just not the Wheel of Time as I envisaged it.

I'll watch S2 etc i'm just not as excited as I hoped i'd be.

Despite reading the series multiple times, I wouldn't consider myself a crazy book purist that expected/needed an exact adaptation. I was mostly fine going in knowing some things would be changed to make everything fit in an 8 episode season. Unfortunately I think they changed too much, and some of the changes are so integral to the overall story that it just doesn't feel like WoT to me anymore. I was kind of on the fence for a bit, but EP 8 was just a big pile of "why?" for me.

Also the quality just isn't there either when comparing it with other good fantasy shows. GoT is obviously a fairly high standard to reach, but I at least hoped it would have Witcher levels of production value (it definitely does not). I'll give S2 a fair shot as I can at least sympathize with them losing Barney Harris before shooting EP 7/8, and dealing with a long covid shutdown after filming the first 6. I don't think those are good excuses for poor writing, but at least the production might be better next season.

TLDR: I sad.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 27 2021 22:52 GMT
#209883
So ... About spiderman

+ Show Spoiler +
Why didn't they used the spell that made people forget so Thanos could forgets about the stones and ggwp?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 27 2021 22:55 GMT
#209884
The Witcher S1 was pretty fun but meh overall, S2 is way better, in every single way.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 27 2021 23:16 GMT
#209885
On December 28 2021 07:55 Faruko wrote:
The Witcher S1 was pretty fun but meh overall, S2 is way better, in every single way.

which is funny, because everyones whining super hard about it (and with everyone i mean the internet, because i liked it and my friends also liked it)
am hyped for s3
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
December 27 2021 23:26 GMT
#209886
I watched Ryusuke Hamaguchi's film Drive My Car yesterday. I expected a great film, but it ended up changing my life. I broke down crying during the finale and ended up finally realizing and accepting that I don't have to make myself suffer for my past mistakes anymore. It's the best and most impactful piece of media I've ever seen.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28096 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-28 00:03:45
December 27 2021 23:35 GMT
#209887
On December 28 2021 08:16 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2021 07:55 Faruko wrote:
The Witcher S1 was pretty fun but meh overall, S2 is way better, in every single way.

which is funny, because everyones whining super hard about it (and with everyone i mean the internet, because i liked it and my friends also liked it)
am hyped for s3

The Witcher series completely butchered the source material so a lot of book fans are upset about it. I personally really enjoyed both seasons (with S2 being a lot better). Despite them ignoring the source material, in a lot of ways it's still a strong show on its own merit. Henry Cavill is also literally Geralt in every way as well lol. Don't think there's anyone with as big of a name as him that could have pulled it off like he does.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 27 2021 23:43 GMT
#209888
On December 28 2021 07:55 Faruko wrote:
The Witcher S1 was pretty fun but meh overall, S2 is way better, in every single way.

I liked both, but s1 better because I found the nonlinear story telling interesting.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7728 Posts
December 28 2021 00:03 GMT
#209889
Poland is mad about witcher series because it's not exactly like in books and also it has some black people playing white characters lol, they literally made a petition to fire the showrunner
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 28 2021 00:14 GMT
#209890
I mean, they wanted ciri to be color person, but the creator had to drew a line somewhere lol.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 28 2021 00:49 GMT
#209891
i mean, personally i didnt like that triss didnt have red hair because i like redheads and i liked triss in the game and found it quite weird that they gave her red hair now even tho shes comlpetely different type
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
December 28 2021 06:21 GMT
#209892
I have read the WoT books a whole lot and was a pretty big fan growing up. I think I'm pretty in line with you emu - I am like...moderately disappointed? The show is fine but not what I want it to be? idk

One thing I've been thinking about is how the thing that really makes WoT great for me is the world building. The writing is pretty bad (maybe battle scenes and a few other things excluded). The fundamental story isn't that interesting. But the world is giant and really cool and so many parts of it are well developed and made me want to learn more / engage with the world like it was real.

And like - I'm not sure that you can really capture that in 8 or 16 episodes or whatever? Certainly I don't feel like they're succeeding for me here. I totally get that they have to move things along at a very different pace due to TV but I think a lot is lost.

Anyway my gf enjoys it fine / kinda likes it more than me (she has never read the books) which I thought was interesting. I will keep watching. We'll see. It'd be cool if it got really good.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28096 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-28 08:59:17
December 28 2021 07:35 GMT
#209893
On December 28 2021 15:21 eieio wrote:
I have read the WoT books a whole lot and was a pretty big fan growing up. I think I'm pretty in line with you emu - I am like...moderately disappointed? The show is fine but not what I want it to be? idk

One thing I've been thinking about is how the thing that really makes WoT great for me is the world building. The writing is pretty bad (maybe battle scenes and a few other things excluded). The fundamental story isn't that interesting. But the world is giant and really cool and so many parts of it are well developed and made me want to learn more / engage with the world like it was real.

And like - I'm not sure that you can really capture that in 8 or 16 episodes or whatever? Certainly I don't feel like they're succeeding for me here. I totally get that they have to move things along at a very different pace due to TV but I think a lot is lost.

Anyway my gf enjoys it fine / kinda likes it more than me (she has never read the books) which I thought was interesting. I will keep watching. We'll see. It'd be cool if it got really good.

Unfortunately Amazon is really adamant on 8 episode seasons being the optimal solution for a lot of their original shows. Also from what I understand, assuming WoT keeps getting renewed they are looking to do 8 seasons in total as that's what the showrunner originally presented to Amazon. I feel like Amazon really needs to let them do 10 EPs a season and possibly extend the premier to 2 hours. For example more time in the Two Rivers/Emond's field would have been amazing for the viewers to establish a connection to that place, and to the characters as well. As you said the world building is incredible, and it's just not possible to establish anything with their current allotted airtime.

As expected the main complaint I've had from non book reader friends/family is that the world seems kind of shallow. There's been a lot of things kind of half introduced but not really explained beyond a line or two of dialogue. I think they did well setting up White Tower politics and the Whitecloaks for future seasons at least.

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I do also like that they gave a glimpse of the sci-fi aspect of the Age of Legends already. Really nice touch. The books don't really do that until much later.
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
December 28 2021 08:26 GMT
#209894
On the topic of movies. Don't watch Matrix 4, I beg you.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 28 2021 09:34 GMT
#209895
Did your movie night end in disappointment? :/
passive quaranstream fan
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28096 Posts
December 28 2021 09:40 GMT
#209896
I’ve heard it’s extremely bad if you care about the original trilogy. Passable if you don’t really care or remember anything.
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
December 28 2021 09:48 GMT
#209897
On December 28 2021 18:34 Artisreal wrote:
Did your movie night end in disappointment? :/

I watched it last week. Matrix 4 makes Matrix 2 and 3 look good. The movie is an utter wreck and all over the place.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 28 2021 10:40 GMT
#209898
On the contrary, Don't look up on Netflix it's pretty good and nice take on how the world works when it comes to politics and society.

And has one hell of a good cast
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 28 2021 14:29 GMT
#209899
It is expected that Matrix 4 is not as revolutionary as the first or even 2nd or 3rd movie.
I will watch it at some point, maybe even in the cinemas, if only for the special effects.

Not really expecting much beyond being entertained by a bombastic spectacle of fight scenes and nice CGI.
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-28 15:12:32
December 28 2021 15:10 GMT
#209900
On December 28 2021 09:03 PoulsenB wrote:
Poland is mad about witcher series because it's not exactly like in books and also it has some black people playing white characters lol, they literally made a petition to fire the showrunner

How many poles does it take to write a script for the witcher?

I really liked matrix 2 iv never understood the hate for it
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