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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-31 12:36:11
March 31 2021 12:33 GMT
#208241
On March 31 2021 21:22 Artisreal wrote:
if the moment a normally deadly False Promise expires, Troll ultimate is active, does Troll survive?

I think the only thing that can kill someone with the unkillable/invincible status is axe ult? I dunno tho I havnt played in a while

I think ancient apparition ult too
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 31 2021 12:48 GMT
#208242
On March 31 2021 21:33 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2021 21:22 Artisreal wrote:
if the moment a normally deadly False Promise expires, Troll ultimate is active, does Troll survive?

I think the only thing that can kill someone with the unkillable/invincible status is axe ult? I dunno tho I havnt played in a while

I think ancient apparition ult too

I thought he would survive. maybe ill check in dota cause its interesting for some reason. I guess to distract from work-
what am I saying, I'm done working for the week - wohoo. 5 day weekend.
passive quaranstream fan
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
March 31 2021 14:17 GMT
#208243
On March 31 2021 21:22 Artisreal wrote:
if the moment a normally deadly False Promise expires, Troll ultimate is active, does Troll survive?

yes he survives
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7080 Posts
March 31 2021 16:18 GMT
#208244
afaik troll ult is basically equivalent to having shallow grave on you for the duration (HP can’t drop below 1) so you would take damage from the Oracle ult but it wouldn’t kill you
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-31 19:18:22
March 31 2021 19:16 GMT
#208245
On March 31 2021 07:41 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Love my OTGD brothers, and thanks for the well wishes.

Happy belated cake day.



So in the past two years I've basically tripled my salary. The biggest difference was moving from intern to full-time app developer, but since then I've gotten a total of ~16%, 8% of which came from a raise period when the company wide was only 2%.

Downside is I'm having to work with Oracle documaker, which is a mishmash of a bunch of concepts and languages that should never interact.
It's coded in : Fortran, C, and Java. It also uses oracle db (about 30 tables per instance, of which we have about 14-15) and websphere connections. Additionally, it has its own proprietary language called DAL (document automation language) that is a nightmarish mishmash of 90s VBA at best and just utter nonsense. Also the fun that it outputs PCL (printer command language) files . My company decided to add a whole bunch of bash scripts on top of this too (which is what oracle recommends).

I had to optimize it so the runtime was going to be only 12 hours about 8 months ago... I did so with the understanding that 25k transactions/day was the max peak load. It's now apparent that the max peak load is gonna be at least 40k/day... can't just slap another server on and call it a day because despite being called "Enterprise edition", it can only be used on one server at a time due to the DB interaction (when we tried it on two one literally sat around and did nothing, with 0% cpu usage). It's also a 32 bit application with a max of 8 threads...

So I have to optimize it more. Currently trying to figure out wtf they did this for : there are three tables : BCHS, RCPS, and BCHS_RCPS . BCHS_RCPS is basically a bridge table, I guess, in functionality, but the way they're doing it seems bizarre. No, the confusing part is keeping it all straight since they all have identical column names and super similar names... which isn't even touching on naming some other tables things like "BCHINGS" and having both TRNS.BCHS, BCHS.TRNS, and BCHINGS.TRNS sub-tables...


Anytime I try to explain it to people in the company I have to make an entirely new flowchart explaining the specific part related to them, and that's just for the non-db parts.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
March 31 2021 20:00 GMT
#208246
I fully agree that you deserve a tripling of your salary if you have to untangle that knot.

I finished the Dota anime and it's passable, but nothing particularly special stood out to me. The most exotic and unique Dota lore elements were underutilized and we got a pared down generic fantasy setting. Way too many f-bombs were dropped, like a teenager got their hands on the script and decided Davion needed to sound edgy. One character from the beginning disappears for most of the story until the very end which was bizarre. I've read they had to cut out five minutes worth of story from each episode, which would total around 40 minutes, or two more episodes, so there was a truncation to it all. Things just escalate and blow up without much build-up on the final episode without a lot of foreshadowing. Not a huge fan of the 3D moments which don't mesh well with the 2D. I'll give the second season a watch, but I'm leaning a 5 or 6 out of 10.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 01 2021 06:29 GMT
#208247
That sounds like a whole lotta magic gibberish to me @nevuk! Yer a wizzerd, ya witch!

in other news, German national football team lost against Northern Macedonia. lol
passive quaranstream fan
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
April 01 2021 07:27 GMT
#208248
#TLWIN
Liquid going home with 0 DPC points and 0 income. At least they can look outside the hotel window and get depressed, becausse they can't leave the hotel.
At home they open Liquipedia and see that Nigma, who bombed out in wildcard, have more points than them. Playing 20something official games gets you nothing.

I stand by my previous rant. This format is shit. It was clearly shit during it's inception. I have no idea how anyone could design this and think that this is in anyones interest.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
April 01 2021 09:09 GMT
#208249
No DPC points or $$$ for reaching the playoffs? wtf
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-01 09:37:54
April 01 2021 09:37 GMT
#208250
So Aster's mid player is called White Album, right? How cultured making your nickname after a Beatles album I thought, very cool. Clicked on his liquipedia and it turns out he's just a coomer and White Album is a name of a japanese adult visual novel. This is why we cant have nice things.
super gg
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
April 01 2021 12:20 GMT
#208251
On April 01 2021 18:09 PoulsenB wrote:
No DPC points or $$$ for reaching the playoffs? wtf

Are you crazy? Valve parting from any of the $120 million the community gave them for a tournament that will never happen?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 01 2021 13:09 GMT
#208252
Holy shit yawar is bad
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
April 01 2021 13:30 GMT
#208253
On April 01 2021 22:09 Faruko wrote:
Holy shit yawar is bad

What did he do? rip QC
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 01 2021 14:26 GMT
#208254
On April 01 2021 22:30 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2021 22:09 Faruko wrote:
Holy shit yawar is bad

What did he do? rip QC

went intro 3 battles and didnt press BKB = dead
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
April 01 2021 15:04 GMT
#208255
On April 01 2021 01:18 tehh4ck3r wrote:
afaik troll ult is basically equivalent to having shallow grave on you for the duration (HP can’t drop below 1) so you would take damage from the Oracle ult but it wouldn’t kill you

the interaction is inconsistent though. you can be culling bladed and will shatter to ice blast during false promise if you fall below the threshold.

but if you're troll ulted, you can be culling bladed but won't shatter to ice blast. classic dota.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 01 2021 16:08 GMT
#208256
I just got an AD on Twitch from ALDI GAMING.

the website is less than barebone but nonetheless - there's a 4 men strong ALDI "stream-team"

the ad is something else as well lmao
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 01 2021 16:11 GMT
#208257
aldi rules. i dont know why we have a bunch of them here but im glad we do.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
April 01 2021 18:02 GMT
#208258
We have Aldi in Poland but I've heard stories that it's (or used to be) a really shitty place to work in.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-01 19:51:35
April 01 2021 19:05 GMT
#208259
I did an energy audit for a big supermarket chain (a discounter one) and boy these working conditions weren't pretty.
Not Amazon level but still not nice. Apart from the engineers and management as well as leading personell in the logistic centres it's really hard work.


dota reated: I havent seen Vlad's picked up in a while. Even with high base dmg carries.
Any reason? Other items just better?
I looked at the playoff and found 3 games where 1 team had a vlad's - Secret, Neon, Ehome
passive quaranstream fan
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
April 01 2021 21:05 GMT
#208260
On April 02 2021 00:04 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2021 01:18 tehh4ck3r wrote:
afaik troll ult is basically equivalent to having shallow grave on you for the duration (HP can’t drop below 1) so you would take damage from the Oracle ult but it wouldn’t kill you

the interaction is inconsistent though. you can be culling bladed and will shatter to ice blast during false promise if you fall below the threshold.

but if you're troll ulted, you can be culling bladed but won't shatter to ice blast. classic dota.


not to mention there are some really strange interactions with spells that trigger when you take certain amounts of damage like Abaddon ult and I believe Aeon Disk where that item used to have a problem where if you took more damage than you had hp it wouldn't trigger and you'd just die lol

I'm pretty sure Abaddon ult still works like that but I haven't seen that happen in years so I don't know anymore. Dota mechanics lmao
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