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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-11 17:48:40
December 11 2020 17:48 GMT
#207461
On December 12 2020 01:01 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2020 22:15 Artisreal wrote:

On December 11 2020 20:07 PoulsenB wrote:
There's a new teaser for upcoming Mass Effect game

Damn I'm excited but I'm also worried as hell, please be a good game!

no Link ?

[video snip]

<3
passive quaranstream fan
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 11 2020 22:55 GMT
#207462
taytay's new album is so chill

ahswtini out
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 12 2020 00:17 GMT
#207463
this renewed pokemon card trend is the most retarded dumb shit ive seen in a long while
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 12 2020 00:21 GMT
#207464
hello friends

i am looking for support from people who had me on discord
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 12 2020 08:53 GMT
#207465
a wild targe appears
© Current year.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 12 2020 10:18 GMT
#207466
On December 12 2020 09:17 teddyoojo wrote:
this renewed pokemon card trend is the most retarded dumb shit ive seen in a long while

explain im out of the loop
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-12 10:39:41
December 12 2020 10:38 GMT
#207467
On December 12 2020 19:18 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2020 09:17 teddyoojo wrote:
this renewed pokemon card trend is the most retarded dumb shit ive seen in a long while

explain im out of the loop

Pokémon card pack/box opening has become a major thing recently for content creators (again). It started on YouTube with people like Logan Paul, but it recently made its way onto twitch as well.

A lot of the older first edition packs have cards that sell for insane amounts of money. Perfect/PSA10 holo dark charizards are worth like 10-15k for example. Pretty much every card in these first edition packs are worth something, so streamers have been buying the first edition boxes that cost like 20-30k and opening all of the packs on stream. They usually make that money back from the stream itself so it’s not a big deal to them.

Also recently sodapoppin trolled everyone and basically ruined many thousands worth of cards on stream with around 100k viewers. I think he even took a literal flame thrower to a holo dark charizard lmao. So all of the Pokémon box opening streamers are tilting over it.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 12 2020 11:31 GMT
#207468
On December 12 2020 19:38 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2020 19:18 rabidch wrote:
On December 12 2020 09:17 teddyoojo wrote:
this renewed pokemon card trend is the most retarded dumb shit ive seen in a long while

explain im out of the loop

Pokémon card pack/box opening has become a major thing recently for content creators (again). It started on YouTube with people like Logan Paul, but it recently made its way onto twitch as well.

A lot of the older first edition packs have cards that sell for insane amounts of money. Perfect/PSA10 holo dark charizards are worth like 10-15k for example. Pretty much every card in these first edition packs are worth something, so streamers have been buying the first edition boxes that cost like 20-30k and opening all of the packs on stream. They usually make that money back from the stream itself so it’s not a big deal to them.

Also recently sodapoppin trolled everyone and basically ruined many thousands worth of cards on stream with around 100k viewers. I think he even took a literal flame thrower to a holo dark charizard lmao. So all of the Pokémon box opening streamers are tilting over it.

uh... yeah i have no comment
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
December 12 2020 13:36 GMT
#207469
On December 12 2020 19:38 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2020 19:18 rabidch wrote:
On December 12 2020 09:17 teddyoojo wrote:
this renewed pokemon card trend is the most retarded dumb shit ive seen in a long while

explain im out of the loop

Pokémon card pack/box opening has become a major thing recently for content creators (again). It started on YouTube with people like Logan Paul, but it recently made its way onto twitch as well.

A lot of the older first edition packs have cards that sell for insane amounts of money. Perfect/PSA10 holo dark charizards are worth like 10-15k for example. Pretty much every card in these first edition packs are worth something, so streamers have been buying the first edition boxes that cost like 20-30k and opening all of the packs on stream. They usually make that money back from the stream itself so it’s not a big deal to them.

Also recently sodapoppin trolled everyone and basically ruined many thousands worth of cards on stream with around 100k viewers. I think he even took a literal flame thrower to a holo dark charizard lmao. So all of the Pokémon box opening streamers are tilting over it.

this is so fucking stupid
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
December 12 2020 13:42 GMT
#207470
Making money off youtube/twitch = going down the spiral of stupid. Unless you are actually good at a game or something.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 12 2020 14:41 GMT
#207471
On December 12 2020 09:21 Targe wrote:
hello friends

i am looking for support from people who had me on discord

I was just yesterday thinking about the time we met up in London years ago. Good to see you, hope your doing well man ))
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 12 2020 15:11 GMT
#207472
Those new disney star wars shows sound great tbh, especially The Acolyte
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 12 2020 18:36 GMT
#207473
On December 12 2020 09:21 Targe wrote:
hello friends

i am looking for support from people who had me on discord

I have you
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 12 2020 18:41 GMT
#207474
And speaking of pokemon, anyone wanna help me finish my pokedex in pokemon shield dlcs?
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
December 12 2020 19:22 GMT
#207475
On December 12 2020 22:36 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2020 19:38 TheEmulator wrote:
On December 12 2020 19:18 rabidch wrote:
On December 12 2020 09:17 teddyoojo wrote:
this renewed pokemon card trend is the most retarded dumb shit ive seen in a long while

explain im out of the loop

Pokémon card pack/box opening has become a major thing recently for content creators (again). It started on YouTube with people like Logan Paul, but it recently made its way onto twitch as well.

A lot of the older first edition packs have cards that sell for insane amounts of money. Perfect/PSA10 holo dark charizards are worth like 10-15k for example. Pretty much every card in these first edition packs are worth something, so streamers have been buying the first edition boxes that cost like 20-30k and opening all of the packs on stream. They usually make that money back from the stream itself so it’s not a big deal to them.

Also recently sodapoppin trolled everyone and basically ruined many thousands worth of cards on stream with around 100k viewers. I think he even took a literal flame thrower to a holo dark charizard lmao. So all of the Pokémon box opening streamers are tilting over it.

this is so fucking stupid

Yea I don't understand most twitch metas, but this is the weirdest one of them all. I guess the viewers get a dopamine boost watching them find super rare cards? I think the whole thing is boring as fuck, and honestly this is just about as scummy as the whole CSGO skin betting meta because these streamers make money regardless of whether their boxes have a positive return on investment or not. Meanwhile the viewers are convinced to start gambling on their own boxes/packs and lose money 99% of the time
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
December 12 2020 19:25 GMT
#207476
o shit whatup targer

the twitch thing seems silly but it's probably pretty fun for the streamers lol.

don't u ever get a desire to crack some mtg packs for no good reason
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 12 2020 19:31 GMT
#207477
On December 13 2020 04:22 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2020 22:36 PoulsenB wrote:
On December 12 2020 19:38 TheEmulator wrote:
On December 12 2020 19:18 rabidch wrote:
On December 12 2020 09:17 teddyoojo wrote:
this renewed pokemon card trend is the most retarded dumb shit ive seen in a long while

explain im out of the loop

Pokémon card pack/box opening has become a major thing recently for content creators (again). It started on YouTube with people like Logan Paul, but it recently made its way onto twitch as well.

A lot of the older first edition packs have cards that sell for insane amounts of money. Perfect/PSA10 holo dark charizards are worth like 10-15k for example. Pretty much every card in these first edition packs are worth something, so streamers have been buying the first edition boxes that cost like 20-30k and opening all of the packs on stream. They usually make that money back from the stream itself so it’s not a big deal to them.

Also recently sodapoppin trolled everyone and basically ruined many thousands worth of cards on stream with around 100k viewers. I think he even took a literal flame thrower to a holo dark charizard lmao. So all of the Pokémon box opening streamers are tilting over it.

this is so fucking stupid

Yea I don't understand most twitch metas, but this is the weirdest one of them all. I guess the viewers get a dopamine boost watching them find super rare cards? I think the whole thing is boring as fuck, and honestly this is just about as scummy as the whole CSGO skin betting meta because these streamers make money regardless of whether their boxes have a positive return on investment or not. Meanwhile the viewers are convinced to start gambling on their own boxes/packs and lose money 99% of the time


If watching someone gamble pushes you to gamble yourself, you were always doomed
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-13 15:15:22
December 13 2020 14:57 GMT
#207478
Cyberpunk is good but as expected there's a lot of tweaking to do. Non-story gameplay opinion:
+ Show Spoiler +
I went for a hacking build and it gets pretty silly towards the endgame. I can clear entire areas from stealth by melting enemy brains/detonating their grenades/making them commit suicide, all from literally across the street without even entering the hostile area or even needing LoS. It's pretty funny but not exactly challenging. I think enemy netrunners need to be better equipped to slow/stop your hacking until you deal with them. The enemy ai can't really respond to you hacking them through walls from a block away, so the challenge becomes pretty trivial
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 13 2020 15:44 GMT
#207479
Wait you're already in the endgame? Game's been out for 4 days!
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 13 2020 16:42 GMT
#207480
+ Show Spoiler +
Main story seems a lot shorter than witcher 3.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
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