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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 22 2015 02:04 GMT
#20541
imo it needs to be fine tuned down a bit more. if you make one mistake when you're ahead as a mid-game lineup, you're dead if they have the better late game.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
March 22 2015 02:10 GMT
#20542
Feel comeback mechanic is mostly fine now atleast for my level. It used to be ridicules when you got 4 levels and a free 3400 gold for killing someone.
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 22 2015 02:21 GMT
#20543
On March 22 2015 10:41 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 10:24 teddyoojo wrote:
comeback mechanic is broken and cant be fixed until it gets removed

i never intended to say buyback cuz buyback is fine

And to think I was seriously considering this point of view. I was going to say that without buyback the game becomes too swingy and dependent on a single mistake at the wrong time, as opposed to the current system where it has to be two mistakes in a row.


Pretty much this, at least that is what I have been saying. It should be fine tuned and adjusted. I am sure a good number of players would agree with that. But outright removing would in my opinion be detrimental. Most likely shorten the average game-length to less than half hour, maybe even less than 25 minutes.

What In would be curious to know though is how buyback influences the varying MMR's. Like a case-study where we could see its influence in 1k-7k mmr. If anything, it would at least be interesting to know.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 02:37:28
March 22 2015 02:34 GMT
#20544
On March 22 2015 10:19 Kupon3ss wrote:
There are no inherent problems with buyback any more than there were inherent problems with the split pushing of TI3 or the aggression of TI4.

People need to differentiate between the inability of teams to understand and play the game with issues of the game itself


While there is no inherent problem with buyback, if you want to retain the comeback mechanic, something needs to change. The defenders can buyback, hold, and walk away richer than they were. Icefrog added the buyback nerf to punish player for buying back and the comeback mechanic undos it. Really, if split pushing was TI3, aggression was TI4, then its comebacks for TI5. Its the game, change with it or get lost in the tide.

We are just talking about this because c9 is really bad at playing dota
High Risk Low Reward
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 22 2015 02:41 GMT
#20545
4-4-0 qop is the way forward
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 22 2015 02:42 GMT
#20546
4-1-0-1 stats
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 22 2015 02:57 GMT
#20547
On March 22 2015 09:50 TheYango wrote:
EG and DK had been playing very lategame-oriented multi-core strats for pretty much the majority of the preceding year due to the development of the offlaner as the tempo hero rather than mid after the post-TI3 offlane changes.

The very push-oriented game at TI4 can be attributed to how 6.81b altered how the game played only a month prior to the event (and 6.81 itself only a month before that)

Basically Valve please stop patching the game just 1-2 month before the event. We get more refined games when we have an older patch that's relatively figured out (TI2), while a comparatively fresh patch leads to lopsided draft-decided games more often when many teams aren't on the same page (TI3/TI4).


did 6.81b really alter the push-oriented strats that much? the only popular picks at ti4 that were buffed in 6.81b were skywrath mage (not really a pushing hero), earthshaker (an anti-push hero), and enigma
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 03:05:28
March 22 2015 02:57 GMT
#20548
Got back from a double date with Plansix, had a lovely time and a pickleback
Pics will be posted whenever p6's fiancee gets around to it
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 03:02:36
March 22 2015 03:01 GMT
#20549
wait passive I thought you were in MI or am I getting you confused with another CW flair lol


On March 22 2015 09:06 eieio wrote:
Tuna does yeasayer have any good songs other than ambling alp and do they have any songs that are better than the memory tapes remix of ambling alp

I realized that my sig is from a song produced by Anand Wilder so I can't hate him that much

tuna pls

also haims still so good jesus why do I ever stop listening to haim for any period of time
LiquidDota Staff
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 22 2015 03:04 GMT
#20550
I go to school in MA, when I'm not in school I'm in detroit
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 03:06:51
March 22 2015 03:05 GMT
#20551
idk i like o.n.e., its a song about addiction lol

also fingers never bleed, blue paper, devil and the deed, 2080, madder red... madder red had a weird ass music video ft veronica mars and deformed lump

they're the kind of songs that grew off me rather than grew on me though
posting on liquid sites in current year
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
March 22 2015 03:07 GMT
#20552
Nobody ever asks me anything AMA
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 22 2015 03:07 GMT
#20553
wait kristin bell was in a yeasayer video wtf
LiquidDota Staff
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 22 2015 03:09 GMT
#20554
ikr

i thought kristin bell was hot as fuck in heroes, but that was after heroes started sucking already
posting on liquid sites in current year
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 22 2015 03:09 GMT
#20555
On March 22 2015 12:07 harodihg wrote:
Nobody ever asks me anything AMA

If you are in Japan right now how is the weather. If you aren't what is your favorite video game.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 03:12:09
March 22 2015 03:10 GMT
#20556
kristin bell is top 5 interview guests on ferguson

prolly right below the girl that plays shauna malwae-tweep on parks and rec

also she's ok on house of lies I guess but that's a show that manages to be mediocre despite an incredible cast like how do you not just let ben schwartz do whatever he wants for a few hours and just show that

I have watched probably hundreds of hours of late night talk show interviews it's what I used to do when I couldn't sleep hahahaha
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TL+ Member
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
March 22 2015 03:11 GMT
#20557
On March 22 2015 12:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 12:07 harodihg wrote:
Nobody ever asks me anything AMA

If you are in Japan right now how is the weather. If you aren't what is your favorite video game.


It's bright and sunny out. My favorite game is Dota AMA
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 22 2015 03:12 GMT
#20558
does japan have its own dota servers yet
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 03:20:22
March 22 2015 03:16 GMT
#20559
why are you lying about being in japan AMA

eieio did you watch the madder red music video its pretty fucked up rofl EDIT actually its not that fucked up its an archetypal story of loss except with a blob
posting on liquid sites in current year
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 22 2015 03:19 GMT
#20560
On March 22 2015 12:12 tehh4ck3r wrote:
does japan have its own dota servers yet

Japan currently does not have its own personal computers. The struggle is real for Japanese PC gaming, please send over all your used computers so maybe the next generation can take part in this beautiful confluence of humanity that we call DOTA2.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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