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On August 06 2012 01:26 BlitzerSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:22 Dead9 wrote:
bloodseeker is workable in pub games
if u can get a force+upgraded boots and hit 11 at decent rate he's pretty strong early-midgame
he relies really heavily on winning mid tho Bloodseeker relies more on the enemy team going into panic mode and run away from you while they are ulted. Just carry a tp and you are good to go vs a bloodseeker.
Many decently farmed bs get a basher for this reason.In pub games with good support his bloodbath means he can literally 1 v 5 if he has a bkb or is facing people without stuns.
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On August 06 2012 03:09 YODA_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:26 BlitzerSC wrote:On August 06 2012 01:22 Dead9 wrote:
bloodseeker is workable in pub games
if u can get a force+upgraded boots and hit 11 at decent rate he's pretty strong early-midgame
he relies really heavily on winning mid tho Bloodseeker relies more on the enemy team going into panic mode and run away from you while they are ulted. Just carry a tp and you are good to go vs a bloodseeker. Many decently farmed bs get a basher for this reason.In pub games with good support his bloodbath means he can literally 1 v 5 if he has a bkb or is facing people without stuns.
If a bloodseeker can 1v5 enemies, he is playing against incredibly bad players or he has 700+ g/epm and all enemies has sub 200 g/epm.
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I have yet to actualy see a BS in like 200 games, people dont even random him anymore, kind of forgot he's in dota2 :D
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On August 06 2012 03:09 YODA_ wrote:
Many decently farmed bs get a basher for this reason.In pub games with good support his bloodbath means he can literally 1 v 5 if he has a bkb or is facing people without stuns.
Bloodseeker isn't that big of a problem.
Early game, just TP out of his Rupture.
Mid Game, Ghost Scepter+TP works like a charm. And no, Force Staff does NOT interrupt TPs.
(Apparently, Ghost Scepter cancels TP...Hm. Pray you have a decent disable, then.)
Late Game, he'll either be doing decent as a carry should or he'll be grossly underfed because of a lack of ganks and farm. He'll be comfortably outcarried in this stage by Morphling, Naga Siren, Antimage...well, pretty much every carry besides Axe and Alchemist.
As someone who mainly plays Tinker, getting successfully ganked by a solo Bloodseeker is rare...Laser/TP or Hex/TP is enough to run away from a roaming BS. Most of the sucessful ganks come from situations where Bloodseeker brings allies with him.
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On August 06 2012 03:23 cilinder007 wrote:
I have yet to actualy see a BS in like 200 games, people dont even random him anymore, kind of forgot he's in dota2 :D
I random-ed him today and wanted to give him a try for the first time ever.
went solo bottom lane vs a drow.
game was nice, then hard, then finally nice!
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Bloodseeker should be a mid ganking sidelanes, or having supports roam mid to kill his opponent.
Really Bounty Hunty is a far better hero to accomplish similar things to what he does and adds extra gold for the kills on top of it, doesn't need anywhere near as much farm and can lane in far more places. Plus blood seeker's thirst doesn't reveal invisible units until they're incredibly low hp.
The only time I really think that BS works well is vs a few specific middles who have low base damage (sf/sniper for instance) and storm spirit.
And alchemist definitely outcarries BS.
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If you want to play Bloodseeker, just play Night Stalker instead and do everything you'd do with BS except way better.
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On August 06 2012 04:30 Bash wrote:
If you want to play Bloodseeker, just play Night Stalker instead and do everything you'd do with BS except way better.
amen
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I think Bloodseeker is a bad hero.There are lots of heroes does his job better.
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alchemist outcarries the shit out of bs, in fact he outcarries the shit out of almost everyone but he just needs too much farm
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Lone druid with full items on him and bear out carries alchemist
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Dota 2 down? I'm getting "connecting to dota 2 network" thing.
And now when i do successfully get in I can't play a game.
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On August 06 2012 07:51 Xinder wrote:
Dota 2 down? I'm getting "connecting to dota 2 network" thing.
as am i.
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rofl tinker with regen rune is insane
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On August 06 2012 08:34 Erasme wrote:
rofl tinker with regen rune is insane
What a way to use your 2000th post =)
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Im a bit behind in the dota 2 competitive scene so forgive me  but who are the PotM Bottom team?
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On August 06 2012 08:41 KezseN wrote:Im a bit behind in the dota 2 competitive scene so forgive me but who are the PotM Bottom team?
an unsponsered north american team. mostly canadians iirc.
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On August 06 2012 08:38 Heh_ wrote:What a way to use your 2000th post =)
yeah wanted to say 'SUCK IT BISU' but fanta lost and im too lazy to make a big post. So meh. Will do a 3k tho!
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Bloodseeker's strength is dominating the shit out of 1v1 mid laning. I'm not saying he can do this in pro games but at least at my MMR ( mid lvl pub games) a bs can last hit everything vs a low dmg solo ranged mid (and still do well and often win lane vs melee's as well) and get a huge gold/exp advantage which snowballs his ganking/carrying ability. So yes Night stalker is obviously a better ganker, but a NS can't regen form half hp back to full off one creep wave either. That may or may not be useful, and as a useful hero NS might be better overall, but they are not simply the same but NS better.
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On August 06 2012 09:42 AndyJay wrote:
Bloodseeker's strength is dominating the shit out of 1v1 mid laning. I'm not saying he can do this in pro games but at least at my MMR ( mid lvl pub games) a bs can last hit everything vs a low dmg solo ranged mid (and still do well and often win lane vs melee's as well) and get a huge gold/exp advantage which snowballs his ganking/carrying ability. So yes Night stalker is obviously a better ganker, but a NS can't regen form half hp back to full off one creep wave either. That may or may not be useful, and as a useful hero NS might be better overall, but they are not simply the same but NS better.
NS is better, but in certain situations, for example, vs a sf mid, a decently played bs can completely dominate a lane and turn into a nightmare mid game, unlike any other hero. Obviously, if playing vs competent team, bs can be handled, but high level play isn't average, crap play is average.
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