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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 05 2012 02:02 GMT
#15881
why is kunkka so fun. i hated him in dota 1. but in dota 2 he's so satisfying, maybe it's the sound effects... or maybe it's that i can land boats really consistently.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 05 2012 02:05 GMT
#15882
Also the fact that you can crit your lothars.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 05 2012 02:11 GMT
#15883
On August 05 2012 11:05 flamewheel wrote:
Also the fact that you can crit your lothars.

Well it's not that to me, he's just way more fun. on the other hand enigma is a hell of a lot less fun for me
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 03:08:13
August 05 2012 03:03 GMT
#15884
On August 05 2012 09:53 Ack1027 wrote:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=10751


very helpful tool for changing the shitty 'recommended' items Valve would have you default to.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 03:07:53
August 05 2012 03:07 GMT
#15885
On August 05 2012 12:03 wcLLg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 09:53 Ack1027 wrote:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=10751


can anyone explain what this is?

changes the in game display of recommended items for each hero. oh what it is not what it does... um it's a program.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2012 07:18 GMT
#15886
dotahut was pretty decent for guides but they seem to have died off in the past few months, or at least are not anywhere near as useful for any of the new heroes (they had various pros writing guides, many of which are now outdated).
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
August 05 2012 11:18 GMT
#15887
On August 05 2012 08:42 Kipsate wrote:
Basically if there is anything you want to know hero/skillbuilds, feel free to ask here, we have enough knowledable people on TL who can tell you what to do, for quick guides Playdota as Yoshi(basically, OMG I RANDOMNED THIS HERO WTF DOES IT DO WTF DO I DO?WHAT DO I BUILD?) said is pretty decent too.
http://www.dota2alttab.com/ still needs a lot of work though...
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 05 2012 12:00 GMT
#15888
On August 05 2012 01:13 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 20:02 Unleashing wrote:
Riot is proud that 90% of their roster is used in their season 2 tournament.
But the reason for this isn't because everything's balanced, it's because everything is changed every two weeks, so obviously the picks will change often and everything will seem viable.
I much prefer IceFrog's way of doing things, he allows players to figure out what to do, or the meta changes so a hero falls out of style.
And yet, a lot of different heroes are picked in DotA, they work in certain lineups and strategies, almost all of them, it's just that some are a lot better for the current meta.

actually i'd say there isn't a single hero in dota that doesn't have a lineup that works well for them and that they couldn't easily be replaced by another and have the lineup work the same. Unlike lol who have a ton of redundant characters. it's cool that way.

I'll agree on this to an extent, but i still believe, that untill proven wrong, blood seeker and spirit breaker have no place in competitive games.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 05 2012 12:31 GMT
#15889
Bloodseekers problem is that BKB is really strong against him and he himself can't use his buff when BKB'd. His spells are decent, thou not exactly great for competitive play. Long silence is great and rupture can really hurt supports relying on good positioning. Both him and Bara have no Aoe and what they give to the team isn't good enough to pick them over better lategame heroes. However, since they are so good against single hereos, they completely wreck pubs where people suck at positioning .
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
August 05 2012 12:38 GMT
#15890
On August 05 2012 16:18 Nevuk wrote:
dotahut was pretty decent for guides but they seem to have died off in the past few months, or at least are not anywhere near as useful for any of the new heroes (they had various pros writing guides, many of which are now outdated).


Their pro guides are still fine. Even heroes which changed since the guides were only changed a little for most the part. They don't have every hero done, but its not like LoL where a guide is out of date in 2 days
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 05 2012 14:02 GMT
#15891
On August 05 2012 21:31 Qbek wrote:
Bloodseekers problem is that BKB is really strong against him and he himself can't use his buff when BKB'd. His spells are decent, thou not exactly great for competitive play. Long silence is great and rupture can really hurt supports relying on good positioning. Both him and Bara have no Aoe and what they give to the team isn't good enough to pick them over better lategame heroes. However, since they are so good against single hereos, they completely wreck pubs where people suck at positioning .

Exactly, blood seekers only scaling is fucked up by him getting a BKB, which most heroes will need, especially melee heroes like himself.
And his silence is good, but the problem is that if for example, you're against a morphling and you want to stop him from getting away, you can't really use BS silence because, odds are he'll just turn around and melt your face since you just buffed his base damage, massively.
Silencing is great, but giving a huge damage buff isn't.

I just feel he needs a rework to work competitively, i don't believe it's about buffing the numbers, same goes for bara.
I don't personally know about huskar, i don't see him as a very good hero competitively, but his low BAT and such makes me wonder if he could have a spot in certain strategies, but i doubt it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 05 2012 14:10 GMT
#15892
I wonder if bloodseekers buff going through BKB on friendlies would make him much better, and on the bufing enemy carries part, you only do this when you are sure you can kill him fast enough and it's really deadly in early game when even 80% buffs are not that big of an issue when you gank a morph/am as 3
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
August 05 2012 14:13 GMT
#15893
On August 05 2012 23:02 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 21:31 Qbek wrote:
Bloodseekers problem is that BKB is really strong against him and he himself can't use his buff when BKB'd. His spells are decent, thou not exactly great for competitive play. Long silence is great and rupture can really hurt supports relying on good positioning. Both him and Bara have no Aoe and what they give to the team isn't good enough to pick them over better lategame heroes. However, since they are so good against single hereos, they completely wreck pubs where people suck at positioning .

Exactly, blood seekers only scaling is fucked up by him getting a BKB, which most heroes will need, especially melee heroes like himself.
And his silence is good, but the problem is that if for example, you're against a morphling and you want to stop him from getting away, you can't really use BS silence because, odds are he'll just turn around and melt your face since you just buffed his base damage, massively.
Silencing is great, but giving a huge damage buff isn't.

I just feel he needs a rework to work competitively, i don't believe it's about buffing the numbers, same goes for bara.
I don't personally know about huskar, i don't see him as a very good hero competitively, but his low BAT and such makes me wonder if he could have a spot in certain strategies, but i doubt it.

u dont even need to buy a bkb to counter him....you just spend 135 gold for a tp scroll
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
August 05 2012 14:14 GMT
#15894
i think my hands are not steady enough to play dota well
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 05 2012 14:17 GMT
#15895
On August 05 2012 23:14 zeehar wrote:
i think my hands are not steady enough to play dota well

SK no stun no active items, GOGO
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KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
August 05 2012 14:39 GMT
#15896
On August 05 2012 23:17 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 23:14 zeehar wrote:
i think my hands are not steady enough to play dota well

SK no stun no active items, GOGO


I automatically think of Pyrion's flux guide to Dota 2 about "Handling another button"
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 16:08:31
August 05 2012 16:07 GMT
#15897
On August 05 2012 21:31 Qbek wrote:
Bloodseekers problem is that BKB is really strong against him and he himself can't use his buff when BKB'd. His spells are decent, thou not exactly great for competitive play. Long silence is great and rupture can really hurt supports relying on good positioning. Both him and Bara have no Aoe and what they give to the team isn't good enough to pick them over better lategame heroes. However, since they are so good against single hereos, they completely wreck pubs where people suck at positioning .

TBH Ghost Scepter fucks up Bloodseeker more than BKB does. Or at least, does so at a practical cost that supports can afford as well.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 05 2012 16:11 GMT
#15898
On August 06 2012 01:07 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 21:31 Qbek wrote:
Bloodseekers problem is that BKB is really strong against him and he himself can't use his buff when BKB'd. His spells are decent, thou not exactly great for competitive play. Long silence is great and rupture can really hurt supports relying on good positioning. Both him and Bara have no Aoe and what they give to the team isn't good enough to pick them over better lategame heroes. However, since they are so good against single hereos, they completely wreck pubs where people suck at positioning .

TBH Ghost Scepter fucks up Bloodseeker more than BKB does. Or at least, does so at a practical cost that supports can afford as well.

Yeah, but you can still silence them making them useless
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 05 2012 16:11 GMT
#15899
If they go ghost scepter, get force staff + dagon. Duhhhhhhhh.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 05 2012 16:15 GMT
#15900
On August 06 2012 01:11 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:07 TheYango wrote:
On August 05 2012 21:31 Qbek wrote:
Bloodseekers problem is that BKB is really strong against him and he himself can't use his buff when BKB'd. His spells are decent, thou not exactly great for competitive play. Long silence is great and rupture can really hurt supports relying on good positioning. Both him and Bara have no Aoe and what they give to the team isn't good enough to pick them over better lategame heroes. However, since they are so good against single hereos, they completely wreck pubs where people suck at positioning .

TBH Ghost Scepter fucks up Bloodseeker more than BKB does. Or at least, does so at a practical cost that supports can afford as well.

Yeah, but you can still silence them making them useless

And then you're Bloodseeker without Rupture or Silence, and you spent all your spells on a support that you can't actually go and kill because of Ghost Scepter.

It's not practical for supports to buy BKB, and it's a hell of a lot better to have Ghost Scepter than nothing at all.
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