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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 05 2012 16:18 GMT
#15901
WEll bloodrage last 9 secs and has 6 secs cd but yeah, BS is rather bad in teamfights, I randomed him recently and it was sad :C
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 16:23:15
August 05 2012 16:22 GMT
#15902
Imo, Rubick should NOT have the aga upgraded spells when stolen. It makes no sense. Why is it that a Rubick steals my ult and I have aga but he gets the aga upgrade as well? Its the aganim that modifies the spell but removing the spell from the player should remove the aganim buff.

I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 05 2012 16:22 GMT
#15903
bloodseeker is workable in pub games
if u can get a force+upgraded boots and hit 11 at decent rate he's pretty strong early-midgame
he relies really heavily on winning mid tho
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 05 2012 16:26 GMT
#15904
On August 06 2012 01:22 Dead9 wrote:
bloodseeker is workable in pub games
if u can get a force+upgraded boots and hit 11 at decent rate he's pretty strong early-midgame
he relies really heavily on winning mid tho


Bloodseeker relies more on the enemy team going into panic mode and run away from you while they are ulted. Just carry a tp and you are good to go vs a bloodseeker.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
August 05 2012 16:27 GMT
#15905
On August 06 2012 01:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:22 Dead9 wrote:
bloodseeker is workable in pub games
if u can get a force+upgraded boots and hit 11 at decent rate he's pretty strong early-midgame
he relies really heavily on winning mid tho


Bloodseeker relies more on the enemy team going into panic mode and run away from you while they are ulted. Just carry a tp and you are good to go vs a bloodseeker.

rofl i just wanted to answer with "the only thing he relies on is a stupid enemy team" :D but i guess u were kinda faster ^^
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 05 2012 16:30 GMT
#15906
That's why you don't go solo as a bloodseeker most of the time, just roam with a stunner. People with 150 hp won't tp out in time. But when you're doing duo roams, why the fuck you pick bloodseeker?
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 16:31:03
August 05 2012 16:30 GMT
#15907
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
Imo, Rubick should NOT have the aga upgraded spells when stolen. It makes no sense. Why is it that a Rubick steals my ult and I have aga but he gets the aga upgrade as well? Its the aganim that modifies the spell but removing the spell from the player should remove the aganim buff.

I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.


He steals the current form of the spell. Him not stealing an aga upgraded spell would go against the rules of his spellsteal. Doesn't really make sense to all of a sudden change the way spellsteal works just because you think it's stupid. I don't really see what the issue is that you raging so hard about. Having random exceptions to rules is far worse I feel.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 05 2012 16:43 GMT
#15908
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
Imo, Rubick should NOT have the aga upgraded spells when stolen. It makes no sense. Why is it that a Rubick steals my ult and I have aga but he gets the aga upgrade as well? Its the aganim that modifies the spell but removing the spell from the player should remove the aganim buff.

I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Please tell us the story behind this post, it might be funny ~
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 05 2012 16:49 GMT
#15909
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
August 05 2012 16:58 GMT
#15910
On August 06 2012 01:30 Qbek wrote:
That's why you don't go solo as a bloodseeker most of the time, just roam with a stunner. People with 150 hp won't tp out in time. But when you're doing duo roams, why the fuck you pick bloodseeker?


You can get someone to gank when you hit level 6, and then you can roam around with wards that die out at about 6 minute mark helping other lanes.

Bloodseeker is one of the strongest 1v1 heroes because of Bloodbath + high base dmg + great attack animation + Poor Man's Shield. Harass BS and he gets hp back from creeps. Try and cs and he will dominate you on last hits. He just needs a few consumables for any spell harass then he should be fine. Of course, you can always play 2 heroes against him which is a pain or gank him, but hopefully that frees up your other lanes a bit.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 17:15:58
August 05 2012 17:13 GMT
#15911
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


No. He steals spells fine. But he should not steal the aganim upgrade that goes along with the spell. If i have an aga and Rubick steals it, he should steal the lvl 3 spell not the level 4 spell. If he wants a lvl 4 spell he should go get an aga on his own. Makes more sense that way.

On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


Yea, good way of comprehending my post. Sheesh.
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 17:36:46
August 05 2012 17:16 GMT
#15912
Never mind me.
Religion: Buckethead
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 05 2012 17:20 GMT
#15913
On August 06 2012 02:16 Incze wrote:
I just had one of my most depressing games ever, as Leshrac.
We (me and silencer) lost the bottom lane SO HARD to an omniknight and slardar it was unbelievable. In retrospection, we could've done much much more to stop being shat on, but we never talked at all. Absolutely no communication between anyone on the team, like a typical game of dota.
Needless to say, we lost terribly. There were so many things that contributed to that loss, including the fact that in all my years of dota I've played Lesh in a single digit number of games and I've fed in all of them, but I was forced to play him this time (as was every time) and our lack of care, probably being used to be up against scrubs who can barely last hit one creep a wave. I just feel so bad and so angry right now and needed to vent. I'll take a little break from dota 2 until I feel better.
Thanks

Just as a heads up, we have a QQ thread for a reason
Moderator
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
August 05 2012 17:22 GMT
#15914
Right, I forgot about that thread. I'm in a really bad state of mind right now, so I may slip some stuff.
Religion: Buckethead
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 05 2012 17:23 GMT
#15915
On August 06 2012 02:13 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


No. He steals spells fine. But he should not steal the aganim upgrade that goes along with the spell. If i have an aga and Rubick steals it, he should steal the lvl 3 spell not the level 4 spell. If he wants a lvl 4 spell he should go get an aga on his own. Makes more sense that way.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


Yea, good way of comprehending my post. Sheesh.

No. Rubick steals spells as it is, at whatever level the spell is. If he steals lvl 1 lucent beam, then too bad for him. If he steals lvl 3 aghs-upgraded eclipse, then good for him. It's the way the hero is designed. Removing the aghs bonus is real stupid.

You might as well argue because spell steal is an ultimate, it should only steal ultimates of other heroes! -_-
=Þ
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 05 2012 17:34 GMT
#15916
On August 06 2012 02:23 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 02:13 Crissaegrim wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


No. He steals spells fine. But he should not steal the aganim upgrade that goes along with the spell. If i have an aga and Rubick steals it, he should steal the lvl 3 spell not the level 4 spell. If he wants a lvl 4 spell he should go get an aga on his own. Makes more sense that way.

On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


Yea, good way of comprehending my post. Sheesh.

No. Rubick steals spells as it is, at whatever level the spell is. If he steals lvl 1 lucent beam, then too bad for him. If he steals lvl 3 aghs-upgraded eclipse, then good for him. It's the way the hero is designed. Removing the aghs bonus is real stupid.

You might as well argue because spell steal is an ultimate, it should only steal ultimates of other heroes! -_-


Not really. Think about it this way. Stealing a spell is all fine and dandy but stealing the aga upgrade to go along with it is almost like stealing the item as well.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#15917
On August 06 2012 01:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:22 Dead9 wrote:
bloodseeker is workable in pub games
if u can get a force+upgraded boots and hit 11 at decent rate he's pretty strong early-midgame
he relies really heavily on winning mid tho


Bloodseeker relies more on the enemy team going into panic mode and run away from you while they are ulted. Just carry a tp and you are good to go vs a bloodseeker.

lol only if you're trying to gank people alone
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 05 2012 17:47 GMT
#15918
On August 06 2012 02:34 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 02:23 Heh_ wrote:
On August 06 2012 02:13 Crissaegrim wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


No. He steals spells fine. But he should not steal the aganim upgrade that goes along with the spell. If i have an aga and Rubick steals it, he should steal the lvl 3 spell not the level 4 spell. If he wants a lvl 4 spell he should go get an aga on his own. Makes more sense that way.

On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


Yea, good way of comprehending my post. Sheesh.

No. Rubick steals spells as it is, at whatever level the spell is. If he steals lvl 1 lucent beam, then too bad for him. If he steals lvl 3 aghs-upgraded eclipse, then good for him. It's the way the hero is designed. Removing the aghs bonus is real stupid.

You might as well argue because spell steal is an ultimate, it should only steal ultimates of other heroes! -_-


Not really. Think about it this way. Stealing a spell is all fine and dandy but stealing the aga upgrade to go along with it is almost like stealing the item as well.

But he is only stealing the spell.
He steals the spell that was used, else you could start arguing against why he can steal level 2 ultis with a level 1 ulti himself. He can because he steals the version that was used.
His dad is even he maker of aghanim's scepter.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 05 2012 17:49 GMT
#15919
On August 06 2012 02:13 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


No. He steals spells fine. But he should not steal the aganim upgrade that goes along with the spell. If i have an aga and Rubick steals it, he should steal the lvl 3 spell not the level 4 spell. If he wants a lvl 4 spell he should go get an aga on his own. Makes more sense that way.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


Yea, good way of comprehending my post. Sheesh.

u know u responded to the same thing twice right
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 05 2012 18:02 GMT
#15920
On August 06 2012 02:49 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 02:13 Crissaegrim wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


No. He steals spells fine. But he should not steal the aganim upgrade that goes along with the spell. If i have an aga and Rubick steals it, he should steal the lvl 3 spell not the level 4 spell. If he wants a lvl 4 spell he should go get an aga on his own. Makes more sense that way.

On August 06 2012 01:49 ahswtini wrote:
On August 06 2012 01:22 Crissaegrim wrote:
I find it stupid. Seriously. If Rubick wants the spell, he should buy aga for himself. And then it should work that way.

Rubick being Rubick, stealing your spells. Deal with it.


Yea, good way of comprehending my post. Sheesh.

u know u responded to the same thing twice right


Did I? Sorry then. Multitasking is taking its toll on me.
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