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5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 03 2012 02:41 GMT
#15801
On August 03 2012 10:31 Ack1027 wrote:
Keeper of the Light: Fixed Chakra Magic mana regen not transfering over Tether.

? What the fuck does this mean.

They changed chakra a while back to not give increased mana regen...it just gives flat mana.

So:
1) Wording is incorrect
2) Using chakra while tethered on wisp gives both of you chakra mana+
3)?

If its #2, that means you can global gank with kotl wisp while kotl recalls someone and you have insta 3 man global gank....The fuck...

Edit: Ok just tested it. If wisp tethers to kotl and kotl chakras wisp, its essentially double chakra...didn't know that was intended to work that way or if that worked in dota1. One of those obscure things.

It doubles pretty much all regen, so it shouldn't be surprising.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 03 2012 02:53 GMT
#15802
On August 03 2012 11:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Yep you can have KOTL wisp prophet Hero Hero and turn a 1v4 into a 5v4 near instantly.

Don't forget about spectre... and why not throw in zeus for shits and giggles.
=Þ
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 03:01:18
August 03 2012 02:54 GMT
#15803
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.

skadi gives stats and a slow. Unless it's on morph, I only take it for graphics
I mean, if you want it for hp, you can get heart which is more cost efficient and if you want it for damage, there's manta/mkb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 03 2012 03:00 GMT
#15804
On August 03 2012 11:41 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 10:31 Ack1027 wrote:
Keeper of the Light: Fixed Chakra Magic mana regen not transfering over Tether.

? What the fuck does this mean.

They changed chakra a while back to not give increased mana regen...it just gives flat mana.

So:
1) Wording is incorrect
2) Using chakra while tethered on wisp gives both of you chakra mana+
3)?

If its #2, that means you can global gank with kotl wisp while kotl recalls someone and you have insta 3 man global gank....The fuck...

Edit: Ok just tested it. If wisp tethers to kotl and kotl chakras wisp, its essentially double chakra...didn't know that was intended to work that way or if that worked in dota1. One of those obscure things.

It doubles pretty much all regen, so it shouldn't be surprising.


Well urn don't work, which it seems like it should so I was only surprised cuz I never tried chakra+wisp before. I wasn't surprised cuz I thought it was OP or some shit.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 03:56:31
August 03 2012 03:50 GMT
#15805
On August 03 2012 11:54 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.

skadi gives stats and a slow. Unless it's on morph, I only take it for graphics
I mean, if you want it for hp, you can get heart which is more cost efficient and if you want it for damage, there's manta/mkb.


Yeah, saw a member of complexity going for it and thought it was an interesting choice. Was just thinking of the items for it and how the skadi could add more abilities to survive with the slow before bkb and getting ven orb early can make for some great harass.

But of course getting mbk could choose to be far superior as well. Just one of those things I am thinking of trying to see how it goes.

Singsing playing enchantress

it is singsing so obviously nsfw due to language but this is why I love watching him play. So hilarious, especially the commentary at the end.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 03 2012 03:54 GMT
#15806
Oi torte. Get 1 point in stun next time on lesh and maybe you'll get to a higher mmr.

:D
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 03 2012 04:00 GMT
#15807
wow... in my head right now is a fucking tri lane morph KoTL Wisp where kotl max leak charka..... jesus.....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
August 03 2012 04:08 GMT
#15808
On August 03 2012 11:53 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Yep you can have KOTL wisp prophet Hero Hero and turn a 1v4 into a 5v4 near instantly.

Don't forget about spectre... and why not throw in zeus for shits and giggles.


yo dawg...

someone mentioned he/she did not like the new wr portrait in selection, i actually like it (i actually thought the old one was a bit awkward, made it look like her boobies were hanging too low/out of proportion or something)
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 03 2012 04:16 GMT
#15809
Joindota’s The Defense is also pushing towards their finals and in anticipation we are running a Free Weekend for that Tournament. All Dota 2 players will be able to watch live games plus any replays starting tonight and lasting until Monday. Just in time to watch Mouz, CLG, Na’Vi and POTM Bottom duke it out.


yaaaay valve+joindota!

On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.


I used to get it after BKB instead of Manta if I'm stomping a DotA pub pretty hard, but meh... never liked it.

ffxiv enjoyer
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 03 2012 04:25 GMT
#15810
On August 03 2012 13:08 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:53 Heh_ wrote:
On August 03 2012 11:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Yep you can have KOTL wisp prophet Hero Hero and turn a 1v4 into a 5v4 near instantly.

Don't forget about spectre... and why not throw in zeus for shits and giggles.


yo dawg...

someone mentioned he/she did not like the new wr portrait in selection, i actually like it (i actually thought the old one was a bit awkward, made it look like her boobies were hanging too low/out of proportion or something)


hmm thats a good point you make i suppose. just saying though the champions in this game dress too modestly, needs more boob
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 03 2012 05:10 GMT
#15811
On August 03 2012 13:16 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
Joindota’s The Defense is also pushing towards their finals and in anticipation we are running a Free Weekend for that Tournament. All Dota 2 players will be able to watch live games plus any replays starting tonight and lasting until Monday. Just in time to watch Mouz, CLG, Na’Vi and POTM Bottom duke it out.


yaaaay valve+joindota!

Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.


I used to get it after BKB instead of Manta if I'm stomping a DotA pub pretty hard, but meh... never liked it.



yeah, bkb to me depends on the othe rteams makeup and if they are able to stop me from ult'ing in time. The added hp and damage is nice but just depends. Blitz is a bad influence since he almost never goes bkb
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 03 2012 06:03 GMT
#15812
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.

my experience with Skadi was always that it's a great item but so darn expensive and the buildup is really clunky so it's almost never worth it. Great for Morph tho.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 03 2012 06:08 GMT
#15813
On August 03 2012 15:03 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.

my experience with Skadi was always that it's a great item but so darn expensive and the buildup is really clunky so it's almost never worth it. Great for Morph tho.


I have noticed its difficulty in getting. Even with Sf's ability to take down waves with ease, I find myself having difficulty getting last item. I mean, getting orb early helps nicely, and getting first ultimate orb is ok. But getting a second one just feels like so much. It is an expensive item, that is for sure. But at least it is nice and segmented and not bulky like Bf.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 03 2012 07:05 GMT
#15814
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.

I think it's really very decent on him if you're financially fit to get it fast enough. It destroys melee carries that rely on BKB/magic immunity to get stuff done (e.g. naix), and the stats are luxurious. The hp/mp buff is a bit underestimated imo.
One of my past favourite SF players, xiaoxiaofang, habitually rushed it as his first big item after treads/bottle/wand in pubs.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 03 2012 07:17 GMT
#15815
On August 03 2012 16:05 hideo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.

I think it's really very decent on him if you're financially fit to get it fast enough. It destroys melee carries that rely on BKB/magic immunity to get stuff done (e.g. naix), and the stats are luxurious. The hp/mp buff is a bit underestimated imo.
One of my past favourite SF players, xiaoxiaofang, habitually rushed it as his first big item after treads/bottle/wand in pubs.


Been playing Sd all day trying it out and it works pretty well. Unfortunately, I had a dumb match where team fed Ns like crazy. Pretty much it was Gg, but once I got skadi, things started to turn around. The team was still too under leveled so we lost, but managed to hold out a lot longer. I remember the ns even asking me how I got skadi so fast (after killing him) lol.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 03 2012 10:16 GMT
#15816
Not sure if posted already:

http://blog.dota2.com/2012/08/whos-the-numb-er-one-now/

http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 10:16:37
August 03 2012 10:16 GMT
#15817
On August 03 2012 19:16 SilverStar wrote:
Not sure if posted already:

http://blog.dota2.com/2012/08/whos-the-numb-er-one-now/

http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/



- Fixed Kunkka being a dirty cheater when using Torrent.


I KNEW IT!
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
August 03 2012 11:31 GMT
#15818
- Undying: Fixed Tombstone not spawning zombies near sleeping enemy units.


this got me thinking; would it be possible to use siren's ult near a stack of enemy players, dump down undying's tombstone and let the zombies stack? by the end of the siren song, they would move so slow it would be easy pickings
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 03 2012 11:32 GMT
#15819
It would be incredibly possible yes
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 11:38:07
August 03 2012 11:35 GMT
#15820
On August 03 2012 16:05 hideo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 11:40 Nilrem wrote:
Was watching a match and noticed Sf going for Skadi. I myself has never gone Skadi for Sf (I do not get him as much as I would like in Sd), but what do others think of Skadi for him? Or rather, what is your experience going Skadi.

I think it's really very decent on him if you're financially fit to get it fast enough. It destroys melee carries that rely on BKB/magic immunity to get stuff done (e.g. naix), and the stats are luxurious. The hp/mp buff is a bit underestimated imo.
One of my past favourite SF players, xiaoxiaofang, habitually rushed it as his first big item after treads/bottle/wand in pubs.


This. It's only really a good item when your pace is near out-of-control. In games where Lothar's/Dagger doesn't make much sense it's often a great pickup after Manta if noone's stalling your tempo. You typically can't get if you've gone dagger/bkb as well because that progression will leave you lacking in damage for a period and eventually lacking itemslots for damage items.
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