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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 11:26:46
July 14 2012 11:26 GMT
#14541
Nvm.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
July 14 2012 11:56 GMT
#14542
On July 14 2012 08:11 TheWarbler wrote:
Solo que AP all day.


This. I've started solo queuing and now I basically end up on the first or second page.
In general, at my MMR everyone is better than when I group up now.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2012 18:43 GMT
#14543
On July 14 2012 20:56 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 08:11 TheWarbler wrote:
Solo que AP all day.


This. I've started solo queuing and now I basically end up on the first or second page.
In general, at my MMR everyone is better than when I group up now.


Yea happens to me and the mate I always queue with. When we play duo we get better people than when we group but to me i'd rather have a worse player that doesn't rage than a good player that does. Although I'll never forget being raped by Dendis ursa mid :<
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 19:19:45
July 14 2012 19:19 GMT
#14544
On July 14 2012 19:35 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 19:30 NB wrote:
HOLY FUCK JESUS.... found out today that i could only play TA using legacy key... its like body physical memory... keep hitting D for invi and T for trap -_-

I'm even more fucked coz I use a personalized hotkey setup. Can't play Puck no matter how hard I try and changing the setup around all the time is too much too ask for Lanaya I only sometimes fuck up the trap detonation, it should really be under the same hotkey as the hero detonate one


This may be blasphemy, but in between not being able to play WC3 DotA and getting a DotA2 key, playing LoL for a a couple of months helped me get used to the QWER set-up.

That said, the first time I played Tidehunter I kept spamming V for late Ravage lols -.-;;

EDIT: You can probably change it under the unit controls. Changing trap detonate to like D that is.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 14 2012 19:22 GMT
#14545
But it would fuck up everything else :/ Im totally cool with all the other hotkeys on summons etc
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 14 2012 19:26 GMT
#14546
You can use a cfg script with a bind key to toggle legacy hotkeys on and off, pretty sure.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
July 14 2012 20:26 GMT
#14547
Hmm, maybe in the future you might be able to have custom key binds for each individual hero.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
July 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#14548
On GosuGamers they're discussing that TA's refraction has an intentional change in dota 2: damage blocked by refraction doesn't trigger dagger cooldown. Apparently Orange used this to their advantage yesterday.

Does this change make TA competitive viable? I know people already get blink on her, and she gives good global visibility and has great mid-game survivability, but does her poor early game cripple her too much?
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
July 14 2012 22:19 GMT
#14549
bottle is overrated on TA. Yah she can rune control like a beast, but the mana regeneration is overkill and largely goes to waste.

I'm a big fan of urn + medallion, even to the point of delaying dagger.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 14 2012 22:23 GMT
#14550
On July 15 2012 07:05 Shai wrote:
On GosuGamers they're discussing that TA's refraction has an intentional change in dota 2: damage blocked by refraction doesn't trigger dagger cooldown. Apparently Orange used this to their advantage yesterday.

Does this change make TA competitive viable? I know people already get blink on her, and she gives good global visibility and has great mid-game survivability, but does her poor early game cripple her too much?


TA is already a heavily sought out pick in the existing SEA DotA 1 games receiving first round bans in almost every game. Though I guess that can be attributed to the differing style that exists in SEA DotA but she is already a very viable ganking/semi-carry that can snowball into a hard-carry in a fashion that isn't to different from Clinkz. Her early game is also nothing to scoff at as long she isn't against a hero that can shut her down too easily (QoP being a prime example) as her Refraction and Meld allows her to win the lane without taking too much hurt and Psi Blade is a very good tool for last hitting targets you otherwise cannot.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 14 2012 22:24 GMT
#14551
dagger is currently changed from dota1, refraction blocked hits dont trigger dagger muting.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=45753&p=281082

this is a big fat balance change and makes her into a very strong pick imo. i also dont like it because she was already a viable pick before and now she's insane
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 22:26:19
July 14 2012 22:25 GMT
#14552
On July 15 2012 07:24 rabidch wrote:
dagger is currently changed from dota1, refraction blocked hits dont trigger dagger muting.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=45753&p=281082

this is a big fat balance change and makes her into a very strong pick imo. i also dont like it because she was already a viable pick before and now she's insane


Hmm, I'd rather wait and see how she turns out with this new change and if she does become the new Lycan of DotA 2. Though she already is the Lycan of SEA games together with Naga Siren
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 14 2012 22:29 GMT
#14553
On July 15 2012 07:25 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:24 rabidch wrote:
dagger is currently changed from dota1, refraction blocked hits dont trigger dagger muting.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=45753&p=281082

this is a big fat balance change and makes her into a very strong pick imo. i also dont like it because she was already a viable pick before and now she's insane


Hmm, I'd rather wait and see how she turns out with this new change and if she does become the new Lycan of DotA 2. Though she already is the Lycan of SEA games together with Naga Siren

with this change she will. in the game with iG and orange this was exploited multiple times where orange would disruption ta with refraction for a guaranteed escapes if the initiation didnt work
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2012 22:40 GMT
#14554
I think it's too early to make conclusions. I've used it a lot in my play currently though so it's a possibility
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
July 14 2012 22:58 GMT
#14555
Out of my 5 games I've gone blink in two of them and both times I ended up wishing I had just rushed deso instead. Hmm.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 14 2012 23:06 GMT
#14556
On July 15 2012 07:58 Firebolt145 wrote:
Out of my 5 games I've gone blink in two of them and both times I ended up wishing I had just rushed deso instead. Hmm.

You go blink when it's the positioning that's the problem. As TA you really shouldn't have problems with having enough damage unless you had a really bad lane. If you can't gt any kills early, damage items should help you more. Dagger is the best thing to speed up your farm on heroes :D
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2012 23:09 GMT
#14557
Yea so far never come across a situation where I think "should have gone deso instead of blink'. You get blink quite early if you have a nice early game, far sooner than a deso and it does a lot more work. I think the better comparison would be bkb or deso.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
July 14 2012 23:21 GMT
#14558
I guess it's also because I've been going my old pre-buff build of meld + psi blades so I have a lot more range to play with. Once I start going refraction+meld with very little psiblades I might start really liking that blink more.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 14 2012 23:25 GMT
#14559
On July 15 2012 08:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
I guess it's also because I've been going my old pre-buff build of meld + psi blades so I have a lot more range to play with. Once I start going refraction+meld with very little psiblades I might start really liking that blink more.

Then ofc you feel like you need more damage lol
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 15 2012 01:03 GMT
#14560
Rejoice!.. Dota 2 overthrows LoL from WCG 2012!
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