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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 17:55:04
July 09 2012 17:47 GMT
#14221
So, lately I've been enjoying playing Storm Spirit. When my start is good and I can get my bloodstone up and running pretty early, the game usually turns out fine, but what am I supposed to do when my farm doesn't allow me to get the bloodstone in a decent period of time (got outlaned, my ganks failed, couldn't kill heroes during the early game, ecc ) ? Usually I just try to "farm" enemy supports but this gets harder and harder when the opponent start playing "5 man dota". What am I supposed to do ? Give me some advices because I found that I really enjoy playing this hero .
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
July 09 2012 17:53 GMT
#14222
Split them up by pushing different lanes with your mobility. Then gank. If you are underfarmed I usually pick up an orchid and power treads or you can just go bkb.
High Risk Low Reward
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
July 09 2012 17:55 GMT
#14223
On July 10 2012 02:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
So, lately I've been enjoying playing Storm Spirit. When my start is good and I can get my bloodstone up and running pretty early, the game usually turns out fine, but what am I supposed to do when my farm doesn't allow me to get the bloodstone in a decent period of time (got outlaned, my ganks failed, couldn't kill heroes during the early game, ecc ) ? Usually I just try to "farm" enemy supports but this gets harder and harder when the opponent start playing "5 man dota". What am I supposed to do ? Give me some advicec because I found that I really enjoy playing this hero .

This is the problem with SS. If he gets farmed/fed and gets about 15+ bloodstone charges by minute 25, he is brutally effective and can generally "just win" by being unkillable and having ridiculous ganking power. But almost anything much less and he can be almost worthless. The saddest hero on the planet is a severely gimped SS.
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 09 2012 18:52 GMT
#14224
On July 10 2012 02:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
So, lately I've been enjoying playing Storm Spirit. When my start is good and I can get my bloodstone up and running pretty early, the game usually turns out fine, but what am I supposed to do when my farm doesn't allow me to get the bloodstone in a decent period of time (got outlaned, my ganks failed, couldn't kill heroes during the early game, ecc ) ? Usually I just try to "farm" enemy supports but this gets harder and harder when the opponent start playing "5 man dota". What am I supposed to do ? Give me some advices because I found that I really enjoy playing this hero .

Don't get Bloodstone unless you get good farm during the early game. If you can't get it around 20 minutes into the game, it's not worth getting it at all. Just farm BKB or Orchid and try to kill off squishy supports in team fights.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 19:21:13
July 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#14225
On July 10 2012 02:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
So, lately I've been enjoying playing Storm Spirit. When my start is good and I can get my bloodstone up and running pretty early, the game usually turns out fine, but what am I supposed to do when my farm doesn't allow me to get the bloodstone in a decent period of time (got outlaned, my ganks failed, couldn't kill heroes during the early game, ecc ) ? Usually I just try to "farm" enemy supports but this gets harder and harder when the opponent start playing "5 man dota". What am I supposed to do ? Give me some advices because I found that I really enjoy playing this hero .

The answer is don't beeline for the same items even though you're not doing well. Storm's item selection is very sensitive to how the game is developing. If your early tempo isn't good, you have to think about how the best way to catch up is, and select your next item based on that.

On July 10 2012 03:52 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 02:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
So, lately I've been enjoying playing Storm Spirit. When my start is good and I can get my bloodstone up and running pretty early, the game usually turns out fine, but what am I supposed to do when my farm doesn't allow me to get the bloodstone in a decent period of time (got outlaned, my ganks failed, couldn't kill heroes during the early game, ecc ) ? Usually I just try to "farm" enemy supports but this gets harder and harder when the opponent start playing "5 man dota". What am I supposed to do ? Give me some advices because I found that I really enjoy playing this hero .

Don't get Bloodstone unless you get good farm during the early game. If you can't get it around 20 minutes into the game, it's not worth getting it at all. Just farm BKB or Orchid and try to kill off squishy supports in team fights.

Don't go Orchid if you plan to teamfight. You get Orchid for ganking and solo-killing in situations where neither team is grouping up. If you expect to teamfight, BKB and Sheep are both better than Orchid.
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 09 2012 19:46 GMT
#14226
Had my first two games without Luna since she came into the game. Man this was great fun.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
July 09 2012 21:20 GMT
#14227
On July 10 2012 04:46 Slomo wrote:
Had my first two games without Luna since she came into the game. Man this was great fun.


Luna is badass. Her nukes are so strong, and 600+ gpm isn't a problem with her glaves. <3
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
July 09 2012 21:30 GMT
#14228
Watched the Navi vs MTW game where Navi went wisp & prophet.

So wisp - imba as shit or op as fuck?
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
July 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#14229
On July 10 2012 06:30 ControlMonkey wrote:
Watched the Navi vs MTW game where Navi went wisp & prophet.

So wisp - imba as shit or op as fuck?


Can I go with imba as fuck?
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
July 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#14230
On July 10 2012 06:30 ControlMonkey wrote:
Watched the Navi vs MTW game where Navi went wisp & prophet.

So wisp - imba as shit or op as fuck?


Neither, Navi used wisp again during their match against Znation just now and lost. They also picked a Rubrick.
I hope your imbalance jibe is meant as a joke.

Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
July 09 2012 21:38 GMT
#14231
On July 10 2012 06:20 Rybka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 04:46 Slomo wrote:
Had my first two games without Luna since she came into the game. Man this was great fun.


Luna is badass. Her nukes are so strong, and 600+ gpm isn't a problem with her glaves. <3


This post is pretty funny. The original post was saying he was glad he played some games where no-one chose Luna (ie he's tired of her being in the pool).
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
July 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#14232
On July 10 2012 06:35 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 06:30 ControlMonkey wrote:
Watched the Navi vs MTW game where Navi went wisp & prophet.

So wisp - imba as shit or op as fuck?


Neither, Navi used wisp again during their match against Znation just now and lost. They also picked a Rubrick.
I hope your imbalance jibe is meant as a joke.



I guess that game was just all around awesome. Made wisp look too strong.

I also heard in that game that they were warning the players against excessive pausing, which I think is essential. The pauses make watching dota so hard, sometimes the broadcast is half pause.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 09 2012 21:50 GMT
#14233
Sing ‏@Sing2X
wont be streaming until I'm back from Kiev, leaving tomorrow in the afternoon!

Seems like mouz got invite for StarSeries finals~
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 09 2012 22:01 GMT
#14234
On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Sing ‏@Sing2X
wont be streaming until I'm back from Kiev, leaving tomorrow in the afternoon!


Yeah saw that and now I am sad


On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Seems like mouz got invite for StarSeries finals~


Glad for them if that is the case
"Yeah buddy"
andReslic
Profile Joined January 2012
216 Posts
July 09 2012 22:26 GMT
#14235
On July 10 2012 07:01 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Sing ‏@Sing2X
wont be streaming until I'm back from Kiev, leaving tomorrow in the afternoon!


Yeah saw that and now I am sad


Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Seems like mouz got invite for StarSeries finals~


Glad for them if that is the case

When are the starseries finals?
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 22:32:12
July 09 2012 22:27 GMT
#14236
On July 10 2012 07:26 andReslic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 07:01 Ramong wrote:
On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Sing ‏@Sing2X
wont be streaming until I'm back from Kiev, leaving tomorrow in the afternoon!


Yeah saw that and now I am sad


On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Seems like mouz got invite for StarSeries finals~


Glad for them if that is the case

When are the starseries finals?

12th-15th July
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
July 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#14237
On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Sing ‏@Sing2X
wont be streaming until I'm back from Kiev, leaving tomorrow in the afternoon!

Seems like mouz got invite for StarSeries finals~

They were always going
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 22:47:41
July 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#14238
On July 10 2012 07:36 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Sing ‏@Sing2X
wont be streaming until I'm back from Kiev, leaving tomorrow in the afternoon!

Seems like mouz got invite for StarSeries finals~

They were always going

Which teams are in top 6? i saw that list on another dota 2 forum.

NaVi
EG(not coming)
CLGmouz
Keita
m5
Darer

edit: you are right, joindota says otherwise T_T
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 09 2012 23:07 GMT
#14239
I thought keita wasn't going either.
WriterXiao8~~
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 09 2012 23:26 GMT
#14240
On July 10 2012 06:50 dragonborn wrote:
Sing ‏@Sing2X
wont be streaming until I'm back from Kiev, leaving tomorrow in the afternoon!

Seems like mouz got invite for StarSeries finals~


Mouz finished 2nd place from the ladder phase:

http://gosugamers.net/dota2/events/1605/6392
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