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On June 28 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 15:59 danielimotbh wrote:On June 28 2012 15:54 TheYango wrote: Actually, my question is what you do with an Oblivion Staff on Viper.
Not like Orchid is any good for him, seeing as the Intel and Mana Regen are almost completely wasted. You'd be amazed at what Orchid can do on Viper vs the right heroes (ex. AM) Theres nothing Orchid can do thats worth spending 2k gold on irrelevant stats. Its a fantastic item for a lot of heroes that can use the regen, but Viper isn't one of them.
Mabye you'd think otherwise as soon as you get an aghanims after.
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On June 28 2012 18:34 Kirb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:On June 28 2012 15:59 danielimotbh wrote:On June 28 2012 15:54 TheYango wrote: Actually, my question is what you do with an Oblivion Staff on Viper.
Not like Orchid is any good for him, seeing as the Intel and Mana Regen are almost completely wasted. You'd be amazed at what Orchid can do on Viper vs the right heroes (ex. AM) Theres nothing Orchid can do thats worth spending 2k gold on irrelevant stats. Its a fantastic item for a lot of heroes that can use the regen, but Viper isn't one of them. Mabye you'd think otherwise as soon as you get an aghanims after.  Hm...I'm tempted to try that out in the Dendi build with MoM-->Aghanim's
Edit: 1000 posts yay
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On June 28 2012 18:34 Kirb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:On June 28 2012 15:59 danielimotbh wrote:On June 28 2012 15:54 TheYango wrote: Actually, my question is what you do with an Oblivion Staff on Viper.
Not like Orchid is any good for him, seeing as the Intel and Mana Regen are almost completely wasted. You'd be amazed at what Orchid can do on Viper vs the right heroes (ex. AM) Theres nothing Orchid can do thats worth spending 2k gold on irrelevant stats. Its a fantastic item for a lot of heroes that can use the regen, but Viper isn't one of them. Mabye you'd think otherwise as soon as you get an aghanims after. 
But, a viper with aghanim doesn't need the mana regen really, you wont be spamming your ult everytime it's off cooldown, only when fighting enemy heroes and 125 mana + 12 second cooldown means that in most fights you'll get off 2~4 maybe in some cases 5 ults, 5 ults = 625 mana. Viper with aghanim wont go oom from that.
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I'm guessing its used more for the damage tick after the orchid and not for the mana regen.
Could be wrong though, haven't tried it yet
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On June 28 2012 18:43 myrmidon2537 wrote: I'm guessing its used more for the damage tick after the orchid and not for the mana regen.
Could be wrong though, haven't tried it yet But DoT doesn't synergize well with orchid, orchid requires fast damage  And viper deals damage best to targets that have already taken some hits due to nethertoxin.
It's just really not the best synergy, IMO anyway.
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Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Aghanims itself already increases mana pool by a fairly significant amount, not to mention that by the time you get Agha(which is usually not gotten as your first item) you will be of a level that you shouldn't worry that much about the mana cost.
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On June 28 2012 18:10 Hoban wrote: Luna sounds more scottish to me.
quite strong irish accent
sylla is the scot. luna sounds different
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Netherlands45349 Posts
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On June 28 2012 18:45 Qbek wrote: Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou Why would you auto-cast an ability that lasts for 2 seconds if you have high attack speed? x_x you should just cast it manually every 2 seconds really. You'd waste so much mana by having it on auto-cast.
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On June 28 2012 19:05 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 18:45 Qbek wrote: Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou Why would you auto-cast an ability that lasts for 2 seconds if you have high attack speed? x_x you should just cast it manually every 2 seconds really. You'd waste so much mana by having it on auto-cast. The attacks look much cooler with poison attack activated.
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On June 28 2012 19:05 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 18:45 Qbek wrote: Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou Why would you auto-cast an ability that lasts for 2 seconds if you have high attack speed? x_x you should just cast it manually every 2 seconds really. You'd waste so much mana by having it on auto-cast. Coz People are lazy?
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Maybe I'm just bad, but I tend to orb walk when ganking or harassing, but when big fights are happening and some many things are on screen, I auto-cast.
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On June 28 2012 18:10 Hoban wrote: Luna sounds more scottish to me. er... are you sure you know the difference?
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Lalalaland34503 Posts
Predictions For The Next Hero Templar Assassin.
Fuck. Yeah.
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Give us Templar Assassin valve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not these crappy wisp/luna/rubick/everyotherheronottemplarassassin.
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On June 28 2012 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:Fuck. Yeah.
Cyborgmatt has cursed as not to have Lanaya as the next hero.
edit: having so much fun with Rubick's static remnants, so awesome.
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On June 28 2012 18:54 zeehar wrote:quite strong irish accent sylla is the scot. luna sounds different
To me she sounds like an american with a very dodgy scottish accent.
I absolutely love the model but I can't say i like the voice (i have had quite experience with both scottish and irish accent people due to where i work now for some time, some of their accent is just not my cup of tea but i love some of them especially those younger irish generation).
There are actually alot of different scottish and irish accents depend on where the person from. In short, luna's sentence ending voice sounds like a scottish.
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