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Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
June 28 2012 09:34 GMT
#13301
On June 28 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 15:59 danielimotbh wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:54 TheYango wrote:
Actually, my question is what you do with an Oblivion Staff on Viper.

Not like Orchid is any good for him, seeing as the Intel and Mana Regen are almost completely wasted.


You'd be amazed at what Orchid can do on Viper vs the right heroes (ex. AM)

Theres nothing Orchid can do thats worth spending 2k gold on irrelevant stats.

Its a fantastic item for a lot of heroes that can use the regen, but Viper isn't one of them.


Mabye you'd think otherwise as soon as you get an aghanims after.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 09:38:18
June 28 2012 09:37 GMT
#13302
On June 28 2012 18:34 Kirb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:59 danielimotbh wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:54 TheYango wrote:
Actually, my question is what you do with an Oblivion Staff on Viper.

Not like Orchid is any good for him, seeing as the Intel and Mana Regen are almost completely wasted.


You'd be amazed at what Orchid can do on Viper vs the right heroes (ex. AM)

Theres nothing Orchid can do thats worth spending 2k gold on irrelevant stats.

Its a fantastic item for a lot of heroes that can use the regen, but Viper isn't one of them.


Mabye you'd think otherwise as soon as you get an aghanims after.

Hm...I'm tempted to try that out in the Dendi build with MoM-->Aghanim's

Edit: 1000 posts yay
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 28 2012 09:41 GMT
#13303
On June 28 2012 18:34 Kirb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:59 danielimotbh wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:54 TheYango wrote:
Actually, my question is what you do with an Oblivion Staff on Viper.

Not like Orchid is any good for him, seeing as the Intel and Mana Regen are almost completely wasted.


You'd be amazed at what Orchid can do on Viper vs the right heroes (ex. AM)

Theres nothing Orchid can do thats worth spending 2k gold on irrelevant stats.

Its a fantastic item for a lot of heroes that can use the regen, but Viper isn't one of them.


Mabye you'd think otherwise as soon as you get an aghanims after.


But, a viper with aghanim doesn't need the mana regen really, you wont be spamming your ult everytime it's off cooldown, only when fighting enemy heroes and 125 mana + 12 second cooldown means that in most fights you'll get off 2~4 maybe in some cases 5 ults, 5 ults = 625 mana.
Viper with aghanim wont go oom from that.
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myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 28 2012 09:43 GMT
#13304
I'm guessing its used more for the damage tick after the orchid and not for the mana regen.

Could be wrong though, haven't tried it yet
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 28 2012 09:44 GMT
#13305
On June 28 2012 18:43 myrmidon2537 wrote:
I'm guessing its used more for the damage tick after the orchid and not for the mana regen.

Could be wrong though, haven't tried it yet

But DoT doesn't synergize well with orchid, orchid requires fast damage
And viper deals damage best to targets that have already taken some hits due to nethertoxin.

It's just really not the best synergy, IMO anyway.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 09:46:12
June 28 2012 09:45 GMT
#13306
Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 28 2012 09:46 GMT
#13307
Aghanims itself already increases mana pool by a fairly significant amount, not to mention that by the time you get Agha(which is usually not gotten as your first item) you will be of a level that you shouldn't worry that much about the mana cost.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 09:55:49
June 28 2012 09:54 GMT
#13308
On June 28 2012 18:10 Hoban wrote:
Luna sounds more scottish to me.


quite strong irish accent

sylla is the scot. luna sounds different
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 10:06:50
June 28 2012 09:56 GMT
#13309
Also yea,
http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/06/dota-2-27th-june/#luna

Luna and Wisp, Wisp is going to be one hell of a bitch.

Luna is looking amazing, both in voice acting and looks, however the animation of Moon Beam could use some work imo.
WriterXiao8~~
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 10:05:54
June 28 2012 10:05 GMT
#13310
On June 28 2012 18:45 Qbek wrote:
Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou

Why would you auto-cast an ability that lasts for 2 seconds if you have high attack speed? x_x you should just cast it manually every 2 seconds really.
You'd waste so much mana by having it on auto-cast.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
June 28 2012 10:06 GMT
#13311
On June 28 2012 19:05 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 18:45 Qbek wrote:
Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou

Why would you auto-cast an ability that lasts for 2 seconds if you have high attack speed? x_x you should just cast it manually every 2 seconds really.
You'd waste so much mana by having it on auto-cast.

The attacks look much cooler with poison attack activated.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 28 2012 10:11 GMT
#13312
On June 28 2012 19:05 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 18:45 Qbek wrote:
Viper with high attack speed can eat through mana very fast if you just autocast the poison attack. I can see orchid being a decent item if the fights are long and you can use the silence and you can survive the fight that last for so long. Not something I would consider core in any situation thou

Why would you auto-cast an ability that lasts for 2 seconds if you have high attack speed? x_x you should just cast it manually every 2 seconds really.
You'd waste so much mana by having it on auto-cast.

Coz People are lazy?
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myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 28 2012 10:14 GMT
#13313
Maybe I'm just bad, but I tend to orb walk when ganking or harassing, but when big fights are happening and some many things are on screen, I auto-cast.
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 10:15:47
June 28 2012 10:15 GMT
#13314
edit: oops wrong tab
ffxiv enjoyer
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 28 2012 10:21 GMT
#13315
On June 28 2012 18:10 Hoban wrote:
Luna sounds more scottish to me.

er... are you sure you know the difference?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
June 28 2012 10:25 GMT
#13316
Predictions For The Next Hero
Templar Assassin.


Fuck. Yeah.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 28 2012 10:27 GMT
#13317
Give us Templar Assassin valve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not these crappy wisp/luna/rubick/everyotherheronottemplarassassin.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 10:47:37
June 28 2012 10:35 GMT
#13318
On June 28 2012 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Predictions For The Next Hero
Templar Assassin.


Fuck. Yeah.


Cyborgmatt has cursed as not to have Lanaya as the next hero.

edit: having so much fun with Rubick's static remnants, so awesome.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 11:49:21
June 28 2012 11:02 GMT
#13319
On June 28 2012 18:54 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 18:10 Hoban wrote:
Luna sounds more scottish to me.


quite strong irish accent

sylla is the scot. luna sounds different


To me she sounds like an american with a very dodgy scottish accent.

I absolutely love the model but I can't say i like the voice (i have had quite experience with both scottish and irish accent people due to where i work now for some time, some of their accent is just not my cup of tea but i love some of them especially those younger irish generation).

There are actually alot of different scottish and irish accents depend on where the person from. In short, luna's sentence ending voice sounds like a scottish.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
June 28 2012 12:04 GMT
#13320
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