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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 17:17:04
September 16 2014 17:14 GMT
#130041
it feels like C9 was just outclassed by EG during WEC finals .. while C9 doesn't look bad in the recent games even the tough ones or the ones they lost they seem to make a good stand.

But i feel like sometimes one of them just randomly dives into a dangerous situation. Like everybody is trying to lead the team. Idk.

On September 17 2014 02:12 Comeh wrote:
Also singsing is highly overrated on any hero that isn't mirana.


I like singsing but i never considered him in the level of s4 and rtz. Yeah he feels overrated sometimes. We can say different player from different teams but s4 and rtz are still really good even on other teams.
this is a quote
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 16 2014 17:17 GMT
#130042
EG is crazy strong. They were an easy third place at TI4, and if PPD hadn't choked on the drafting against VG, they could have been second or even possibly first. They're better than they were at TI4. Mason and Fear are night and day in terms of skill. It's not a chip off C9's shoulder to lose to them.
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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
September 16 2014 17:18 GMT
#130043
On September 17 2014 02:05 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 01:15 Comeh wrote:
On September 17 2014 01:12 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On September 17 2014 00:49 Comeh wrote:
On September 17 2014 00:47 Plansix wrote:
Best how? I remember being just another poster who spent time shit talking non-Korean SC2 players.

Sounds pretty good to me.

But Leenock is so kawaii~*!~*

Helped him book his tickets to DH Stockholm so going to meet him next week again!

I feel like the only SC2 posts you make are about Leenock and your relationship with him.

Exactly how well do you know Leenock?

He trusts me, so pretty well I guess? I shared a hotelroom with Leenock in November last year because 1man hotelroom doesn't exist. So was cheaper for both of us to share.

I also met him at DH Stockholm in April 2013 where he won so was pretty sick to experience that live.

Now he is my Korean teacher now (not really but he helps me when I have questions) so he's gonna help me a bit next week >_<

Here's a pic of me and him from the hotelroom we shared. Pls no flame
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reported for being leenock bro

the envy is real
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 17:22:26
September 16 2014 17:20 GMT
#130044
Good thing about the new EG is that looks like fear can play anything. Mason is good on storm though.

I remember in the PPD AMA that he said Mason was "the best storm in the game" ofc it's exaggerated .

this is a quote
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 16 2014 17:22 GMT
#130045
On September 17 2014 02:20 goody153 wrote:
Good thing about the new EG is that looks like fear can play anything. Mason is good on storm though.

I remember in the PPD AMA that he said Mason was "the best storm in the game" ofc it's exaggerated .

s4 is probably the best western storm, which is still probably worse than a few chinese storms. RTZ used to play storm pretty well, but you know he doesn't play int heroes anymore.
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 16 2014 17:23 GMT
#130046
Anyone know any cheap but good ice cream brands I'm gonna get a bunch of ice cream to eat at night
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
September 16 2014 17:24 GMT
#130047
Damn i mean what do you guys think about Team Secret ? not team tinker .. no idea what crossed my mind when i typed team tinker.

On September 17 2014 02:22 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 02:20 goody153 wrote:
Good thing about the new EG is that looks like fear can play anything. Mason is good on storm though.

I remember in the PPD AMA that he said Mason was "the best storm in the game" ofc it's exaggerated .

s4 is probably the best western storm, which is still probably worse than a few chinese storms. RTZ used to play storm pretty well, but you know he doesn't play int heroes anymore.


hmmm i must have watched the wrong games when i saw s4 storm .. i feel like resolution is even way better than him on the hero

Chinese storms. I remember Super from ESL. That was a tea to watch.
this is a quote
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 16 2014 17:24 GMT
#130048
On September 17 2014 02:24 goody153 wrote:
Damn i mean what do you guys think about Team Secret ? not team tinker .. no idea what crossed my mind when i typed team tinker.

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 02:22 Comeh wrote:
On September 17 2014 02:20 goody153 wrote:
Good thing about the new EG is that looks like fear can play anything. Mason is good on storm though.

I remember in the PPD AMA that he said Mason was "the best storm in the game" ofc it's exaggerated .

s4 is probably the best western storm, which is still probably worse than a few chinese storms. RTZ used to play storm pretty well, but you know he doesn't play int heroes anymore.


hmmm i must have watched the wrong games when i saw s4 storm .. i feel like resolution is even way better than him on the hero

Chinese storms. I remember Super from ESL. That was a tea to watch.

Oh yeah resolution is really good on him as well.

I always forget about him.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 16 2014 17:25 GMT
#130049
PPD is so much better at drafting now that he has Fear to play anything under the sun, including carry lina, cause why the fuck not. I really like his style of drafting with playing mind games with his opponents. I think it was vs C9 that he baited them into a super greedy draft with a second pick naga and then last picked pugna and went full push.

I am sure it will lead to EG getting dumpstered at some point in a set, but right now its fun to watch.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7046 Posts
September 16 2014 17:26 GMT
#130050
RIP dailymotion stream

AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 16 2014 17:26 GMT
#130051
On September 17 2014 02:23 harodihg wrote:
Anyone know any cheap but good ice cream brands I'm gonna get a bunch of ice cream to eat at night

I only know my shit when it comes to Polish brands
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 16 2014 17:27 GMT
#130052
Ahh shame, guess I'll just wing it and hope whatever i get doesn't suck
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
September 16 2014 17:28 GMT
#130053
They have been doing that 1st and 2nd pick naga the entire WEC tournament. Giving enemies the headache making them assume that it was rtz naga and an actual option to pick it. I don't see rtz naga nowadays what happened to it ? post-nerf effect?
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 16 2014 17:28 GMT
#130054
On September 17 2014 02:23 harodihg wrote:
Anyone know any cheap but good ice cream brands I'm gonna get a bunch of ice cream to eat at night

Edy's ice cream is normally a reasonable prices totally acceptable.
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 16 2014 17:29 GMT
#130055
Ty p6 I'll look for that when I go to walmart at 2am tonight
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 16 2014 17:30 GMT
#130056
On September 17 2014 02:24 goody153 wrote:
Damn i mean what do you guys think about Team Secret ? not team tinker .. no idea what crossed my mind when i typed team tinker.

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 02:22 Comeh wrote:
On September 17 2014 02:20 goody153 wrote:
Good thing about the new EG is that looks like fear can play anything. Mason is good on storm though.

I remember in the PPD AMA that he said Mason was "the best storm in the game" ofc it's exaggerated .

s4 is probably the best western storm, which is still probably worse than a few chinese storms. RTZ used to play storm pretty well, but you know he doesn't play int heroes anymore.


hmmm i must have watched the wrong games when i saw s4 storm .. i feel like resolution is even way better than him on the hero

Chinese storms. I remember Super from ESL. That was a tea to watch.

TS is about as bad as TT right now. Hopefully they improve.
On September 17 2014 02:28 goody153 wrote:
They have been doing that 1st and 2nd pick naga the entire WEC tournament. Giving enemies the headache making them assume that it was rtz naga and an actual option to pick it. I don't see rtz naga nowadays what happened to it ? post-nerf effect?

Still a thing. They pick it.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 16 2014 17:30 GMT
#130057
resolution is #1 mid in the west
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 16 2014 17:30 GMT
#130058
On September 17 2014 01:59 Plansix wrote:
I haven't seen a lot of TT, but what I have has only be passable. As Acritter said, they have a lot of talent, but it doesn't seem to be directed very well. I am sure they could take a game off of any team that is currently out there, but have just as much chance of getting dumpstered.

so they're basically 2013 TL

On September 17 2014 02:14 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 02:08 Plansix wrote:
on the topic of Western teams, C9 looked good at WEC, but seemed to crack under the pressure in the finals(or at least that last game). I will need to see more, but I am of the opinion that couple of their players really crack under a lot of pressure.

TT is a work in progress, but they don't seem to have any sort of leadership or something to direct their talent. Its ok to have a player that can put the team on their back an carry them, but you can't rely on that every game. No team is a threat with one dangerous player.

C9 is really good right now, just because they have a set of players organized. We'll have to see if they stay like that after we get another few teams properly put together. There's definitely something to the throw potential of that team, though.

TL was a major threat at TI4 with one really scary player and a bunch of people who were good at throwing themselves in the gears of the enemy team. People hate on Wayto a lot, but he did know how to just fuck up whatever the other team was trying to do simply by being in the wrong place. His WK was legitimately pretty strong, even if it isn't the most technical of heroes.

apparently a lot of people behind the scenes said Wayto was one of the strongest supports, idek
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 16 2014 17:32 GMT
#130059
I honestly don't think any Western team is barely even at the "average" level besides EG, maybe C9. I think most western teams suck right now.
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 16 2014 17:33 GMT
#130060
Everyone who's dumb judges players linearly like comparing each support based on kda or something when in reality that's the same as comparing a mid players kda to an offlaners kda

Waytovis really good but he plays a bitchnigga support as opposed to a richnigga support
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