Or you could just increase the mana cost / lower int gain for those heroes. Which buffs OD.
Awkward.
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
September 09 2014 14:37 GMT
#128601
Or you could just increase the mana cost / lower int gain for those heroes. Which buffs OD. Awkward. | ||
idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
September 09 2014 14:37 GMT
#128602
On September 09 2014 23:29 cecek wrote: Doom using a cast point to cast scorched earth seems fair. Similar to edict on Lesh. Also, fix bottle being usable for free after a tp. I think that would make Tinker fair. And Razor shouldn't be allowed to have 2 ults running at the same time like DP. I think that would make him balanced, in many games people don't even go for agha refresher and it's still a fine hero. A little numbers nerf to DP and Skymage, maybe just a bit longer CD on one of their spells. That would be enough nerfs for me, rest could be buffs. :D I would like if they rework bottle so it only refills 1 charge every 5 seconds in the fountain, so you have to sit 15 seconds in fountain to get the bottle refilled. Would make bottle crowing less bullshit and would fix the bottle refill after tp. On September 09 2014 22:49 Dubzex wrote: What is holding back teams from trying to do a cheap +stats push similar to the build on np with nulls except respective stat based item for each hero? 5 wraith drow + 5 null prophet + whatever I assume he is asking why teams don't rush cheap stat items and then force fights by 5-man pushing. If that is what you want to know i would guess it is too risky, if you can't end by 15-20 minutes you will probably lose as 3 cores wasting 2.5k gold each is a big deal. | ||
cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 09 2014 14:39 GMT
#128603
Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
September 09 2014 14:42 GMT
#128604
On September 09 2014 23:39 cecek wrote: I think strength gain buff made Razor good in this patch, right? If you reverse it back he might become irrelevant/OD mid counter. Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() At least they honestly tell you that they were paid to do it. Literally 0 gaming journalists these days would do that. That's right, PFLAX is a better gaming journalist than every major online publisher these days. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 09 2014 14:43 GMT
#128605
Now Void/Tinker on the other hand fuck those guys. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
September 09 2014 14:43 GMT
#128606
On September 09 2014 23:39 cecek wrote: I think strength gain buff made Razor good in this patch, right? If you reverse it back he might become irrelevant/OD mid counter. Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() I appreciate their honesty and glad they are getting paid. Gotta make those dollars. Rather than nerfing mek, I would rather they make more ways to break static link for razor. Providing more ways to deal with him stealing damage makes for better gameplay, IMO. On September 09 2014 23:42 Comeh wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2014 23:39 cecek wrote: I think strength gain buff made Razor good in this patch, right? If you reverse it back he might become irrelevant/OD mid counter. Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() At least they honestly tell you that they were paid to do it. Literally 0 gaming journalists these days would do that. That's right, PFLAX is a better gaming journalist than every major online publisher these days. Also helps that they are not journalist. Patrick Klepek of Giant Bomb is a journalist, with like sources and writing stories about the industry. TB and Flax are just entertainers who's opinion some people rely on for purchase decisions. Not really a crack at you, but people throw around the term "journalist" super broadly in the gaming world. People call Geoff Keighley a journalist, even those he has never claimed to be one, or done anything that even vaguely resembles being a journalist. | ||
cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 09 2014 14:47 GMT
#128607
On September 09 2014 23:42 Comeh wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2014 23:39 cecek wrote: I think strength gain buff made Razor good in this patch, right? If you reverse it back he might become irrelevant/OD mid counter. Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() At least they honestly tell you that they were paid to do it. Literally 0 gaming journalists these days would do that. That's right, PFLAX is a better gaming journalist than every major online publisher these days. No, all of them do that now. They have to. There was a quite a big scandal with xbone and Machinima a while back and apparently all youtubers are now legally obliged to clearly state that the video is paid for. And it's not even enough to put it in the description, it has to be right on the video. What I don't get is why TB is doing this... I mean, his channel and Polaris has to be making a fuckton of money for him. By doing paid videos he's just discrediting himself as a critic, at least in my eyes. Pflax I guess needs the money, but it still rubs me the wrong way that he's accepting money to promote a competitor's product after being so deep in DotA, even being invited and paid by Valve to TI4. | ||
Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
September 09 2014 14:48 GMT
#128608
But most of S2s audience got increasingly disappointed with them after how they handled HoN. Going to be interesting to see how they do. I don't really care about the paid promotion though, as long as it's stated that it's a paid promotion. Gaming "journalism" is rotten nowadays. | ||
Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 09 2014 14:49 GMT
#128609
TB isn't really doing it for the money, he routinely plays different games and has shown interest in strife before. He had a reasonably good time playing a game with a buddy and got paid a bit for it, seems like a good deal for everybody. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
September 09 2014 14:50 GMT
#128610
On September 09 2014 23:47 cecek wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2014 23:42 Comeh wrote: On September 09 2014 23:39 cecek wrote: I think strength gain buff made Razor good in this patch, right? If you reverse it back he might become irrelevant/OD mid counter. Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() At least they honestly tell you that they were paid to do it. Literally 0 gaming journalists these days would do that. That's right, PFLAX is a better gaming journalist than every major online publisher these days. No, all of them do that now. They have to. There was a quite a big scandal with xbone and Machinima a while back and apparently all of them are now legally obliged to clearly state that the video is paid for. And it's not even enough to put it in the description, it has to be right on the video. What I don't get is why TB is doing this... I mean, his channel and Polaris has to be making a fuckton of money for him. By doing paid videos he's just discrediting himself as a critic, at least in my eyes. Pflax I guess needs the money, but it still rubs me the wrong way that he's accepting money to promote a competitor's product after being so deep in DotA, even being invited and paid by Valve to TI4. Hes not a critic, he is an entertainer who's opinion some people use to make purchase decisions. And there is nothing with giving a new game a chance. What if Flax finds a cool feature and tells Valve "Yo, guys this feature is excellent and you should look at this"? | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
September 09 2014 14:50 GMT
#128611
On September 09 2014 23:47 cecek wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2014 23:42 Comeh wrote: On September 09 2014 23:39 cecek wrote: I think strength gain buff made Razor good in this patch, right? If you reverse it back he might become irrelevant/OD mid counter. Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() At least they honestly tell you that they were paid to do it. Literally 0 gaming journalists these days would do that. That's right, PFLAX is a better gaming journalist than every major online publisher these days. No, all of them do that now. They have to. There was a quite a big scandal with xbone and Machinima a while back and apparently all youtubers are now legally obliged to clearly state that the video is paid for. And it's not even enough to put it in the description, it has to be right on the video. What I don't get is why TB is doing this... I mean, his channel and Polaris has to be making a fuckton of money for him. By doing paid videos he's just discrediting himself as a critic, at least in my eyes. Pflax I guess needs the money, but it still rubs me the wrong way that he's accepting money to promote a competitor's product after being so deep in DotA, even being invited and paid by Valve to TI4. I guess what I meant is that gaming coverage is super incestuous these days, so I guess I found this interesting. | ||
Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
September 09 2014 14:51 GMT
#128612
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 09 2014 14:51 GMT
#128613
The fact that they get paid to try out a game is like bonus. | ||
Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 09 2014 14:52 GMT
#128614
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 09 2014 14:53 GMT
#128615
E: and yeah meepo's pretty broke imo, including in competitive. | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
September 09 2014 14:53 GMT
#128616
On September 09 2014 23:52 Kupon3ss wrote: its actually meepo, meepo is the most broken thing in the game since the first dispersion spectre Can you explain to me why this hero isn't first pick / first banned right now? Honor system? | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
September 09 2014 14:54 GMT
#128617
On September 09 2014 23:49 Kupon3ss wrote: I agree, we need more counterplayer for that supremely anti fun ability that allow the player to make meaningful decisions TB isn't really doing it for the money, he routinely plays different games and has shown interest in strife before. He had a reasonably good time playing a game with a buddy and got paid a bit for it, seems like a good deal for everybody. Agreed, the main problem with link is there is literally no way to stop it except to walk away from it, with a couple of exception. With Razors natural move speed and it working even while he is stunned, its just free damage for him with no ability to deal with it. Mind you, I have no idea what should break the link, but maybe if he is stunned for a set period of time or a damage threshold. | ||
cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 09 2014 14:55 GMT
#128618
On September 09 2014 23:50 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2014 23:47 cecek wrote: On September 09 2014 23:42 Comeh wrote: On September 09 2014 23:39 cecek wrote: I think strength gain buff made Razor good in this patch, right? If you reverse it back he might become irrelevant/OD mid counter. Also, what sellouts TotalBiscuit and Pflax are: + Show Spoiler + ![]() At least they honestly tell you that they were paid to do it. Literally 0 gaming journalists these days would do that. That's right, PFLAX is a better gaming journalist than every major online publisher these days. No, all of them do that now. They have to. There was a quite a big scandal with xbone and Machinima a while back and apparently all of them are now legally obliged to clearly state that the video is paid for. And it's not even enough to put it in the description, it has to be right on the video. What I don't get is why TB is doing this... I mean, his channel and Polaris has to be making a fuckton of money for him. By doing paid videos he's just discrediting himself as a critic, at least in my eyes. Pflax I guess needs the money, but it still rubs me the wrong way that he's accepting money to promote a competitor's product after being so deep in DotA, even being invited and paid by Valve to TI4. Hes not a critic, he is an entertainer who's opinion some people use to make purchase decisions. And there is nothing with giving a new game a chance. What if Flax finds a cool feature and tells Valve "Yo, guys this feature is excellent and you should look at this"? He does call himself a critic. And he is a critic, his videos are poorly researched reviews under the mask "first impressions", because that takes less effort. And they're not "trying out" a new game. They're making advertisement for it. I know nobody can stop them from doing it, they have every right to do it, etc. | ||
Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
September 09 2014 14:59 GMT
#128619
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
September 09 2014 14:59 GMT
#128620
On September 09 2014 23:53 Comeh wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2014 23:52 Kupon3ss wrote: its actually meepo, meepo is the most broken thing in the game since the first dispersion spectre Can you explain to me why this hero isn't first pick / first banned right now? Honor system? Not enough pro's abuse quickcast Like seriously quickcast is stupid in dota2 and makes heroes like meepo super broken. | ||
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