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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Mustard race just keeps winning. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 15 2014 04:02 Plansix wrote: I like professionalism to be what it is. My firm is very professional, but we use the dreaded curse words and make off color jokes as well. I just don’t do it when I am assisting an attorney in court. And being professional doesn’t mean you are nice all the time. Sometimes you're a fucking asshole, but you use very civil language while doing it. The problem with SC2 is that it was professionalism at interpreted by 15 year olds. At least Dota doesn’t have that problem, I think because the player base is older.(zero evidence to back that up, just my gut) I wonder if it's because Dota is too much of a target-rich environment. If you wanted to witch-hunt someone for fun in SC, your choices were digging shit up about orb from eighteen months prior, white-knighting someone (probably Scarlett), busting Nerchio or waiting for Idra to stream. And Idra retired, and no one cares about Nerchio. In Dota, iceiceice plays with no pants, sing calls everyone a bitch or a poousy, half the recognizable pros are either open or covert flamers, and NADota is a thing. There aren't enough hours in the day to email all the sponsors. And there also aren't Dota 2 specific talk shows that let people call in and ask obnoxious fucking questions about professionalism that put the hosts in the position of either agreeing completely or being witch-hunted for Killing eSports. And, you know what? The other thing is that Starcraft went to the sponsors. Sponsors came to Dota. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
But mostly it was because SC2 was the first and got a lot of the weird bullshit that comes with that. It had an established professional scene in Korea and everyone wanted that instantly in EU and the US. Dota doesn't have the problem. Its its own thing and members of the community get super defensive if people try to make it something else. And because its a team game, I think that leads to pros not being super whiney bitches. Or if they start whining, their team mates tell them to STFU. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
Bans also have to help a bit. If you're sincere in your belief that Tinker is broken, you can ban Tinker. Maybe people would have bitched less if, at the start of a series, Player A could have banned Hellbat drops and Player B could have banned Soul Trains on Ohana and cannon rushes on every other map. Edit: also, about balance whine, Dota is so much more transitory than Starcraft is. Once you pick a race in Starcraft you're probably there for the long haul. And your favorite players probably aren't changing their races often. So, as the world's biggest PuMa fanboy, whenever someone points out that the 1-1-1 is overpowered, they're saying that my favorite player is successful because he's using broken shit, and fuck that noise. Or when a pro says that some tactic is overpowered, all the people who play that guy's race all pile onto what he said, and all the people who play whatever race he's complaining about freak out, and all the people who play the third race pick one depending on which matchup they have the most problems with. In Dota, when someone says that Dire Lycan is too strong, everyone else just goes "... yeah." Because unless you have some pocket strat that no one else runs, like the 4 Knights EG strat, everyone just does the same crap everyone else does. You play half your games on Dire, half on Radiant, sometimes you have Tinker, sometimes you don't, and none of it is worth getting really upset about because ultimately it all comes out in the wash. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On August 15 2014 05:26 Plansix wrote: SC2 was weird. You had Korean SC2, who looked like super polite gentlemen because no one on reddit could tell if they were talking shit or not. You had idiots telling the community not to do things, which only caused them to do things. You had a section of reddit who lived to get kids kicked from teams. And you have the balance/race wars, which just leads to people causing drama all on its own. But mostly it was because SC2 was the first and got a lot of the weird bullshit that comes with that. It had an established professional scene in Korea and everyone wanted that instantly in EU and the US. Dota doesn't have the problem. Its its own thing and members of the community get super defensive if people try to make it something else. And because its a team game, I think that leads to pros not being super whiney bitches. Or if they start whining, their team mates tell them to STFU. its cuz ppl had too much time cuz casual sc2 wasnt fun at all | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On August 15 2014 05:26 Plansix wrote: SC2 was weird. You had Korean SC2, who looked like super polite gentlemen because no one on reddit could tell if they were talking shit or not. You had idiots telling the community not to do things, which only caused them to do things. You had a section of reddit who lived to get kids kicked from teams. And you have the balance/race wars, which just leads to people causing drama all on its own. But mostly it was because SC2 was the first and got a lot of the weird bullshit that comes with that. It had an established professional scene in Korea and everyone wanted that instantly in EU and the US. Dota doesn't have the problem. Its its own thing and members of the community get super defensive if people try to make it something else. And because its a team game, I think that leads to pros not being super whiney bitches. Or if they start whining, their team mates tell them to STFU. Balance complaints make less sense in dota due to the nature of the game, especially in CM. In SC2, every player is invested in playing a certain race, and if the current patch is skewed agaisnt then they just have to deal with it. Whereas in dota, if certain heroes / strategies are "op" every team/player has the same opportunity to use them. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Maybe its just me, but I noticed in my 4 years of following SC2 pros that the majority of discussion they did about the game what how it was unfair to them(with the exception of Grubby, who is awesome). But maybe that just how the game works and the nature of RTS games. But I still think the victory conditions are one of the main reason why SC2 is so passive. I liked the COH/DoW victory system where you had to hold a section of the map. Way more interesting(even if those games were fucked in so many ways). On August 15 2014 05:40 teddyoojo wrote: its cuz ppl had too much time cuz casual sc2 wasnt fun at all So true, so true. I love that game, but I found I loved micro wars more than playing the basic game. | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
On August 15 2014 05:10 Unleashing wrote: http://www.gamepur.com/news/15265-destiny-indeed-coming-pc-release-date-leaked-steam-database-activision-says.html Mustard race just keeps winning. that's fake lol it isn't coming out for like at least 6months+ after console release the devs already said it in some interview | ||
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
Edit: hell, or WC3, where Twisted Meadows was played for the entirety of that game's run. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On August 15 2014 05:55 LuckoftheIrish wrote: With maps, it's similar to Counterstrike. Everything that's non-standard takes away from practice time on the standard things. So Daybreak and Dust 2 stay in the pool forever until someone puts enough money into things to force Habitation Station and Overpass. Edit: hell, or WC3, where Twisted Meadows was played for the entirety of that game's run. this had absolutely nothing to do with it | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 15 2014 05:57 teddyoojo wrote: this had absolutely nothing to do with it Yes, it did. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On August 15 2014 05:44 andyrau wrote: that's fake lol it isn't coming out for like at least 6months+ after console release the devs already said it in some interview What's fake? The article even says ""As per the details in Destiny PC Steam database, it will launch in March 2015." So what exactly is the fake part? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 15 2014 05:59 Unleashing wrote: What's fake? The article even says ""As per the details in Destiny PC Steam database, it will launch in March 2015." So what exactly is the fake part? I will wait to a more reputable source picks it up. They literally cite nothing but a polygon interview that confirms nothing. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
The devs have also stated multiple times that they'd love to have destiny on PC. Regardless of if this is true, i'm sure destiny will come to PC sooner or later though. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 15 2014 06:03 Unleashing wrote: This isn't the first time a game is found in the Steam database before it's announced, same thing happened with GTA:V lol. I'm not saying its not true, but they are not providing shit in that article. There is literally nothing beyond them saying "Trust us guys, its there", not even a screen shot. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
It must be a pleasure playing pubs with Mason, lol. | ||
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