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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 09 2014 10:47 GMT
#122121
Earthshaker Crit is hard even with Blink. Maybe I should have skipped Armlet
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 09 2014 10:57 GMT
#122122
too bad shaker get fucked so hard by so many mid
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 09 2014 10:58 GMT
#122123
Yeah i usually play mid when i stack with friends and recently i've run into more and more mid shakers and most of the time it's just like, ez lane win and ez ganks on him.
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 11:09:30
August 09 2014 11:08 GMT
#122124
On August 09 2014 19:46 lprk wrote:
Big creeps can have up to 1.1k hp, lvl4 fissure does 275 damage, so you need a bit more.

Stack many times and slam it.

EDIT: Bonus points of you lure enemies into the stack before slamming.
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ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
August 09 2014 11:14 GMT
#122125
On August 09 2014 19:57 Erasme wrote:
too bad shaker get fucked so hard by so many mid


so whats that statement???
there are a lot of mid heros that get stomped there, but win by achieving important things on the map.
pudge e.g. is one of them.

armlet on shaker is not a good idea though.
you need that blinkdagger asap. and armelt dosent give you anything you want.
yes ikts more dmg with the totem, but if you think about it, you have the level advantage from the mid lane
so you combo does already a lot of dmg, why would you delay your blinkdagger for that?

it is not your job to onehit someone. its your job do burst some1.
and for the shaker, he can bursat the whole team.

you can compare it to void.
people who play faceless void often think that they have to kill 3 people inside the chrono. thats just not true.
you need a good chrono where your allies can hit the enemys too. thats the real scary thing.
if your faceless void carry is able to kill 3 people inside the chrono, this game is over for 30 min anyways
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 09 2014 11:33 GMT
#122126
Lu0 gets more viewers at douyu than arteezy, haha
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 09 2014 11:34 GMT
#122127
On August 09 2014 20:33 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Lu0 gets more viewers at douyu than arteezy, haha


It looks like Arteezy gets double
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 09 2014 11:38 GMT
#122128
The big difference is that pudge can kill heroes without items, while ES need the blink and if you get 15 min blink you won't snowball hard and gets damage items, so you are basically 2 levels higher support. On top of that your opponent is freefarming so you basically created 2k gold difference without any return.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 09 2014 11:39 GMT
#122129
mh proleague or arteezy
game is hard
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
August 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#122130
Ateezy's playlist never ceases to amuse me. I thoroughly enjoyed the woman empowering songs.
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ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 11:53:46
August 09 2014 11:50 GMT
#122131
On August 09 2014 20:38 lprk wrote:
The big difference is that pudge can kill heroes without items, while ES need the blink and if you get 15 min blink you won't snowball hard and gets damage items, so you are basically 2 levels higher support. On top of that your opponent is freefarming so you basically created 2k gold difference without any return.


why do you need a blinkdagger if you fissure 1400 range.
if you gank, there should be other people on the lane.

but maybe your problem is, that you only play 1on1.
i can understand that and it seems like you never played 5on5 before.
you have 4 team mates there - you know?!

the cool thing is: you dont have to 1 on 5 your opponents. and thats why yoiur arguments are useless.

---

edit: just to make sure.
if you gank and the other mid hero is only freefarming mid. thats pretty much the best thing that can happen in this situation.
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 09 2014 12:02 GMT
#122132
On August 09 2014 20:50 ScarPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 20:38 lprk wrote:
The big difference is that pudge can kill heroes without items, while ES need the blink and if you get 15 min blink you won't snowball hard and gets damage items, so you are basically 2 levels higher support. On top of that your opponent is freefarming so you basically created 2k gold difference without any return.


why do you need a blinkdagger if you fissure 1400 range.
if you gank, there should be other people on the lane.

but maybe your problem is, that you only play 1on1.
i can understand that and it seems like you never played 5on5 before.
you have 4 team mates there - you know?!

the cool thing is: you dont have to 1 on 5 your opponents. and thats why yoiur arguments are useless.

---

edit: just to make sure.
if you gank and the other mid hero is only freefarming mid. thats pretty much the best thing that can happen in this situation.

I mean without early blink you have exactly same impact on the game as support ES also if your supports can gank your lane opponents can too.
ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
August 09 2014 12:43 GMT
#122133
so mid shaker also has the same levels as (roaming) support shaker?
really?
you underestimate how devastating a core shaker with solo exp can be mate. by a lot.

its actually one of the biggest things for shaker that he can evade ganks pretty good with his fissure.
good positioning + wards and one fissure is enough to stop ganks very often.
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 09 2014 12:48 GMT
#122134
I played roaming sk back in 2009, i played core shaker back in feb of 2013, now I like to play mid omni as a go to kinda whacky thing. Watch out
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 09 2014 12:51 GMT
#122135
Who is the best hero to roam in your opinion?
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 09 2014 12:58 GMT
#122136
On August 09 2014 21:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
Who is the best hero to roam in your opinion?

Depends on the alignment of the planets
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 09 2014 12:59 GMT
#122137
Earthshaker is the best roamer imo. At least has the highest skill cap. Fissure is just way too potentially strong of a spell. Like completely blocking the retreat path for the enemy mid so they have to go down the river etc.

Veno, Venge, Sandkungen, SD, CM, Alch are all very good too.

And then Chen/Enchantress is always scary early game. Especially if they start out in the enemy jungle.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 09 2014 13:02 GMT
#122138
On August 09 2014 21:43 ScarPe wrote:
so mid shaker also has the same levels as (roaming) support shaker?
really?
you underestimate how devastating a core shaker with solo exp can be mate. by a lot.

its actually one of the biggest things for shaker that he can evade ganks pretty good with his fissure.
good positioning + wards and one fissure is enough to stop ganks very often.

You have more damage ofc, but I gladly take for example mek advantage from gold difference from lost midlane.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 09 2014 13:02 GMT
#122139
mirana and sb
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 09 2014 13:14 GMT
#122140
Mirana is hit or miss as a roamer. Literally.
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