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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 09 2014 09:12 GMT
#122101
i don't like basi, and i prefer the qojqva build of phase>blink>crit
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 09:19:32
August 09 2014 09:18 GMT
#122102
On August 09 2014 07:47 superstartran wrote:
Can I just say that people who jungle on a non-ganking jungler make me want to kill myself? That shit is so infuriating it is unreal.

agreed
"how to waste my hero and my time 101"
critshaker sucks its like a worse version of pa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 09 2014 09:23 GMT
#122103
Critshaker just seems like a bad Kunkka to me
rip
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 09 2014 09:23 GMT
#122104
>worse version of PA

you mean amazing version of PA
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 09 2014 09:27 GMT
#122105
Welp, that build didn't work. We still won but I dragged the team down for like 20 minutes
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
August 09 2014 09:31 GMT
#122106
On August 09 2014 18:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
Welp, that build didn't work. We still won but I dragged the team down for like 20 minutes

Fine wording.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 09 2014 09:49 GMT
#122107
I've gone carry ES several times, always a blast. Well, by always, I mean some of the time when it works. I like going mid and go for early Shadow Blade. When you get farmed well enough, it ends up being so satisfying seeing the very large crits early game.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 09 2014 09:54 GMT
#122108
Shadow blade doesn't help you with critting, enchant totem affects only base damage.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 09 2014 09:56 GMT
#122109
On August 09 2014 18:12 Shaella wrote:
i don't like basi, and i prefer the qojqva build of phase>blink>crit

Qojqva plays mid critshaker and gets a bottle. You need something for mana and if you're safelane farming, basi is a better choice than bottle. You're not getting runes and you can toggle the aura to push if you have an opening.
super gg
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 09 2014 10:02 GMT
#122110
On August 09 2014 18:56 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 18:12 Shaella wrote:
i don't like basi, and i prefer the qojqva build of phase>blink>crit

Qojqva plays mid critshaker and gets a bottle. You need something for mana and if you're safelane farming, basi is a better choice than bottle. You're not getting runes and you can toggle the aura to push if you have an opening.

yes and

critshaker is amazing at mid
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 09 2014 10:08 GMT
#122111
On August 09 2014 18:54 lprk wrote:
Shadow blade doesn't help you with critting, enchant totem affects only base damage.


Didn't say it did I said getting farmed up results in nice crits, not the addition of Sb. It for me adds to the combo so right click bonus damage into totem stompage.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 09 2014 10:10 GMT
#122112
The little bit of burst isn't worth 1k gold and inferior positiong compared to blink imo
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 09 2014 10:11 GMT
#122113
On August 09 2014 18:56 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 18:12 Shaella wrote:
i don't like basi, and i prefer the qojqva build of phase>blink>crit

Qojqva plays mid critshaker and gets a bottle. You need something for mana and if you're safelane farming, basi is a better choice than bottle. You're not getting runes and you can toggle the aura to push if you have an opening.


I'll try this now
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13090 Posts
August 09 2014 10:18 GMT
#122114
On August 09 2014 19:08 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 18:54 lprk wrote:
Shadow blade doesn't help you with critting, enchant totem affects only base damage.


Didn't say it did I said getting farmed up results in nice crits, not the addition of Sb. It for me adds to the combo so right click bonus damage into totem stompage.


Not to mention the mana cost of shadowblade which is huge for critshaker compared to 0 mana blink.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 09 2014 10:19 GMT
#122115
On August 09 2014 19:10 lprk wrote:
The little bit of burst isn't worth 1k gold and inferior positiong compared to blink imo


Comes down to preference for me. They both have their uses and merits. Depends on how you want to play it and the impact of the match. Just having the idea of invis can change the dynamic of a match. Same with knowing a hero has blink dagger. Sure one is probably more worthwhile than the other but in all honesty, by virtue of going carry ES, you are already acknowledging that you wish to go with a variance on the norm.

Essentially I see it as this; if going to argue based on merits of worth, than might as well not bother going carry anyway.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 10:28:05
August 09 2014 10:24 GMT
#122116
On August 09 2014 19:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 18:56 cecek wrote:
On August 09 2014 18:12 Shaella wrote:
i don't like basi, and i prefer the qojqva build of phase>blink>crit

Qojqva plays mid critshaker and gets a bottle. You need something for mana and if you're safelane farming, basi is a better choice than bottle. You're not getting runes and you can toggle the aura to push if you have an opening.


I'll try this now


the biggest thing on a crit shaker imho isnt that BAM crits solely.
giving shaker solo exp and farm just makes him a damn beast.

dropping level 11 ult midst the enemys supports, which are often pretty low level is so fucking devastating.
you also cant really miss that dunk, because of your blinkdagger.

and after you already have all your core items, you build the crit dagger.
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
August 09 2014 10:26 GMT
#122117
how would a Deso work for damageshaker?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 09 2014 10:29 GMT
#122118
On August 09 2014 19:24 ScarPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 19:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 09 2014 18:56 cecek wrote:
On August 09 2014 18:12 Shaella wrote:
i don't like basi, and i prefer the qojqva build of phase>blink>crit

Qojqva plays mid critshaker and gets a bottle. You need something for mana and if you're safelane farming, basi is a better choice than bottle. You're not getting runes and you can toggle the aura to push if you have an opening.


I'll try this now


the biggest thing on a crit shaker imho isnt that BAM crits solely.
giving shaker solo exp and farm just makes him a damn beast.

dropping level 11 ult midst the enemys supports, which are often pretty low level is so fucking devastating.
you also cant really miss that dunk, because of your blinkdagger.

and after you already have all your core items, you build the crit dagger.


The only problem I'm having is reaching Blink Dagger. I'm 13 minutes and still got 1800 gold to go
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 10:31:18
August 09 2014 10:29 GMT
#122119
On August 09 2014 19:26 hooahah wrote:
how would a Deso work for damageshaker?


deso will give your enemy -7 amor and increases your damage by 60.
that should answer your question.

---

i think shaker should be able to kinda flashfarm the jungle.
droppinng 1-2 fissures into a stack will kill it right?
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 09 2014 10:46 GMT
#122120
Big creeps can have up to 1.1k hp, lvl4 fissure does 275 damage, so you need a bit more.
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