EPThe makes one of the opposing team's heroes useless, literally pulls gold out of his ass, great initiation with blink, and lvldeath does a shitload of damage.
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andyrau
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he makes one of the opposing team's heroes useless, literally pulls gold out of his ass, great initiation with blink, and lvldeath does a shitload of damage. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 09 2014 08:08 andyrau wrote: wait wtf how is doom ass he makes one of the opposing team's heroes useless, literally pulls gold out of his ass, great initiation with blink, and lvldeath does a shitload of damage. In jungle. Doom is ass in jungle. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On August 09 2014 08:02 superstartran wrote: No it's not, it weakens your lanes and sets you up for massive failure. It allows the offlane much more exp than he would normally get, and it gives the opposing supports (if they have 2) the opportunity to roam and camp your mid. Jungling almost never works out in pubs because pubs are won almost exclusively from the laning phase. If you have a good laning phase, you win your pubs a good portion of the time (I'd wager anywhere from 70-80%). This isn't like competitive play where people are smart enough to farm the jungle and dodge fights as a team; what will end up happening is that you're jungling and dodging fights, but your team gets caught, or tries to take bad fights 4v5, etc. There needs to be serious changes to how denying/exp/neutrals work before jungling becomes viable again. Before, it used to be viable to just jungle because you'd outexp/outgold the opposing supports so badly that it would be worth it to sacrafice some laning power. Now with changes to smoke, exp, shared gold, etc. you can get way more gold as a support player, making a jungler that much less viable in pub play. You rarely see junglers even ganking junglers like Chen/Enchant/Enigma for this very reason now adays in competitive play. For whatever reason, people just haven't figured out that it's terrible for pubs. wtf does all that have to do with being safe in the laning phase | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 09 2014 08:26 Targe wrote: wtf does all that have to do with being safe in the laning phase Typical pub with jungler. AFK for 6 minutes while two other lanes get lost/enemy carry gets easy 1v1 lane. Enemy offlane is so overfed that they just walk into jungle and make you cry. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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TheYango
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On August 09 2014 08:32 WolfintheSheep wrote: Typical pub with jungler. AFK for 6 minutes while two other lanes get lost/enemy carry gets easy 1v1 lane. Enemy offlane is so overfed that they just walk into jungle and make you cry. wtf is this i said with a little awareness the jungle is safe enough and everyones talking about trash pub players and the effects of having a jungler | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On August 09 2014 07:47 superstartran wrote: Can I just say that people who jungle on a non-ganking jungler make me want to kill myself? That shit is so infuriating it is unreal. These people are the worst, since they don't die because they're fucking AFK in the jungle with their half an Armlet at 10 minutes and no boots while our lanes are getting roamed on because we're 4v5 then they have the gall to flame people for feeding and having no farm Fortunately when I know I'm gonna be up against this shit I can just pick BH and make their jungler cry | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
My current pub build: Basilius -> Midas -> Treads -> Necro3 -> Maelstrom -> Scythe -> Daedalus I get called noob half the time they see treads on my Furion. 4200+ MMR. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On August 09 2014 09:29 teddyoojo wrote: midas->phase is pretty bad would Midas -> Treads be better then lol | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On August 09 2014 09:33 teddyoojo wrote: in theory yes but keep in mind u cant really generalize like that in dota well yeah I know, though in my current MMR, hardly an adjustment that is needed. The most I'd do is get wards/smoke, etc. for the team while a significant item is needed on the other supports, like Mek or Blink. | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On August 09 2014 09:37 makmeatt wrote: Midas -> brown boots owns. Hmmm.. I might just do this for the faster Necro3. | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
On August 09 2014 09:38 trinxified wrote: Hmmm.. I might just do this for the faster Necro3. I was kidding dude, midas sucks on prophet. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
gz you won Furion in pubs is really difficult | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
and I got the golden Venge >.> Then to the Golden Mausoleum (worse one of the 5) | ||
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