EPTStill, I will take someone who is bad in the jungle and a solo lane over an idiot in lane that just fucks up my farm.
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Still, I will take someone who is bad in the jungle and a solo lane over an idiot in lane that just fucks up my farm. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On August 09 2014 05:30 Sn0_Man wrote: 95% of lanes with an LC in them are half decent that hero's op oh i was talking about jungling with any hero who can manage jungle but should lane doom jungle is the worst imo | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3300 Posts
On August 09 2014 05:27 Sn0_Man wrote: There's like 1 hero in the game who farms faster in jungle than in a half-decent lane. If ur jungle isn't disrupted its cuz ur opponents are unaware of certain basic dota principles (highly likely considering u jugnling an lc/naix/etc means ur prolly also unaware) Just 1? Enigma? Chen? Ench? NP? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Enigma can farm faster than mid if he gets his roll on. The rest are slightly/way slower than mid. | ||
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schmitty9800
United States390 Posts
On August 09 2014 02:58 crms wrote: there is no LCS equivalent in DOTA 2. Dota 2 generally runs 6-8 week leagues (dreamleague, joindota, dota2champions, d2l, etc) that offer a similar feel of a regular season->playoffs->lan finals. Aside from some of these staple leagues, Dota mostly has big 1-off tournaments every month or so. Right now, you'll be hard pressed to find any sort of consistent competitive content because Ti4 just ended. Generally there is a 2ish month delay until all the leagues/tournaments and even teams stabilize to start the next run up to ti5. There's still plenty of stuff to watch, albeit at a semi-pro level. Beyond the Summit seem to be on a break but Joindota has their league going on. | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3300 Posts
On August 09 2014 05:35 Plansix wrote: Lets just say it, Doom is the worst. He is a mega creep with one good spell and the ability to farm quickly after he gets like 2000 gold worth of items and a bunch of levels. Can't wait till pros stop picking him. Enigma can farm faster than mid if he gets his roll on. The rest are slightly/way slower than mid. But the point wasn't that they farm faster than their laners. Was if they farm faster in woods than in lane, and neither of those (NP disputable) do. And those were the ones I got from the top of my head and im also not that experienced to know more/if those are actually right. | ||
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
this is all relative to time though, the longer the duration of the game the more and more obvious this becomes. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 09 2014 05:44 CrownRoyal wrote: removing all other aspects from the game besides jungling I am quite positive chen axe enigma and ursa can take more from the jungle than being in mid lane. this is all relative to time though, the longer the duration of the game the more and more obvious this becomes. Well ur batting .250 at best. | ||
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Yurie
12088 Posts
NP much slower, wasted in jungle. Enigma is faster and can gank easily. Chen/ench are ganker/pushers and not farmers in jungle. They are often pretty slow due to that. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 09 2014 05:43 misirlou wrote: But the point wasn't that they farm faster than their laners. Was if they farm faster in woods than in lane, and neither of those (NP disputable) do. And those were the ones I got from the top of my head and im also not that experienced to know more/if those are actually right. As far as I know(and all my information is coming from pros talking about in on stream and Merlini), Enigma is the only one that can keep up with farming in lane. The rest farm slower than if they were in lane. Its why jungling is so trash, unless you get something like dope creeps or their abilities, because anyone who can jungle would do better in lane. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
They still farm slower in jungle than in lane assuming a non-nightmare aka farmable lane. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
perfect cs mid is something like 4500 net worth at 10 minutes so. 5:30ish lvl 6 which is respectable, enigma is like 4:30 very consistently with safe strats and can be sub 4 with optimal spawns and more risky routes. (i'm a nerd and played jungle in hon where things like this were relevant) | ||
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
In the morning when Sunsfan and Synd was shooting their A-Z challenge. They had a LC Jungling... 8 minutes in LEVEL 3 W/ GLOVES OF HASTE Needless to say the LC was useless until they lost the game. Just wait until the game comes up and you'll see. I hate seeing LC jungling. It's such wasted potential for her. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Yurie
12088 Posts
On August 09 2014 06:22 Yoshi- wrote: In 10 minutes spawn like 84 creep, that alone is more than 4500 gold. I think your statement here is wrong. What average per creep are you calculating? 4500 is 53 gold per creep. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Also creeps are worth like 40g per on average I think | ||
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