• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:57
CEST 13:57
KST 20:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down10ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League53Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.165
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [BSL23] RO24 Group Stage [ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7855 users

General Discussion - Page 6023

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6021 6022 6023 6024 6025 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 30 2014 02:10 GMT
#120441
On July 30 2014 11:08 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 10:58 icystorage wrote:
that's why this other game died

bw?

afaik it's alive :3
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 30 2014 02:11 GMT
#120442
get rid of blink and add portal key in imo
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
July 30 2014 02:12 GMT
#120443
On July 30 2014 05:47 Shaella wrote:
You know, like what seems to be the case EVERYWHERE FUCKING ELSE IN THE WORLD

except like russia right
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 30 2014 02:15 GMT
#120444
On July 30 2014 11:10 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 11:08 Targe wrote:
On July 30 2014 10:58 icystorage wrote:
that's why this other game died

bw?

afaik it's alive :3

its ded like leoric
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
July 30 2014 02:15 GMT
#120445
On July 30 2014 11:12 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:47 Shaella wrote:
You know, like what seems to be the case EVERYWHERE FUCKING ELSE IN THE WORLD

except like russia right

i think strangely yes Dota beats league in Russia/CIS
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
July 30 2014 03:13 GMT
#120446
On July 30 2014 05:46 cecek wrote:
The thing is, there are not that many setups that can run LoL, but can't run Dota 2. That's why I don't buy the argument that people in China still play WC3 DotA or LoL because of Dota 2's system requirements. Unless the majority of computers in China are in that narrow "can play LoL, can't play Dota" corridor, that just doesn't make a sense. It would make sense if Dota 2 wasn't actually popular in China, but everything apart from the actual amount of people playing (social network followers, stream viewers, etc.) point towards it being popular. I really want someone to explain that to me.

Actually I think a lot of computers fit that narrow corridor. I know I was forced to play league because my computer couldn't play dota 2. (Soo many abandons and I literally saw a banana for veno)

I could ask my Chinese friend but I know he still willingly plays wc3 Dota even when his computer can play ddota2 because he likes wc3 and all his friends play it
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 04:50:46
July 30 2014 04:46 GMT
#120447
my old laptop got 30-40 fps on league on lowest settings, 30-40 on games like sc2 or css and but only got 20-30 fps on dota 2 with everything at lowest and then some. i had so many autoexec.cfg shit going on that made my game look like runescape and my framerate was still terrible.cs:go was also pretty bad for me. anything like arma was unplayable.

source engine games in general were a no go for my old laptop. it's still around and it's a shitbox but it's also like 5 yrs old so whatever

wc3 ran ok though. i had to jump through a bunch of bullshit hoops because of compatibility mode but aside from that wew
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 04:53:41
July 30 2014 04:53 GMT
#120448
I think that the current dagger can be balanced via cooldowns increased. Giving it back the mana cost will hurt a lot of heroes too much to warrant that change. Just make the cooldown longer so that you will save it for when you need it will be a much safer & conventional of changing things up.

The steam numbers from china you guys are talking about, is it from Perfect World servers? If i am not wrong, dota2 is run by PW not steam. That may be the missing link you guys talking about? <--noob
Mew Mew Pew Pew
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 05:00:14
July 30 2014 04:59 GMT
#120449
imo dagger shouldnt be changed

what should be changed is the fact that the vast majority of spells in dota2 dont destroy trees, and there is no item that allows you to destroy trees in an aoe
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 30 2014 05:00 GMT
#120450
are trying to kill hyhy?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 30 2014 05:00 GMT
#120451
On July 30 2014 14:00 icystorage wrote:
are trying to kill hyhy?

beating cancer isnt easy
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
July 30 2014 05:02 GMT
#120452
On July 30 2014 13:59 rabidch wrote:
imo dagger shouldnt be changed

what should be changed is the fact that the vast majority of spells in dota2 dont destroy trees, and there is no item that allows you to destroy trees in an aoe


Quelling blade recipe item inc.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
July 30 2014 05:05 GMT
#120453
On July 30 2014 13:59 rabidch wrote:
imo dagger shouldnt be changed

what should be changed is the fact that the vast majority of spells in dota2 dont destroy trees, and there is no item that allows you to destroy trees in an aoe


force staff
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 05:18:32
July 30 2014 05:18 GMT
#120454
On July 30 2014 14:00 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 14:00 icystorage wrote:
are trying to kill hyhy?

beating cancer isnt easy

holy shit tell me about it
http://dotabuff.com/matches/805987732

i swear to god that game was one of the hardest of my life there was so much ratting happening
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 05:36:44
July 30 2014 05:31 GMT
#120455
25 mana and higher cooldown seems fit for Blink Dagger I think. At least higher cooldown on either its use or the cooldown after getting hit.

Like how about 14 seconds cooldown (it was like this before) and 4 seconds after hit?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 30 2014 05:35 GMT
#120456
On July 30 2014 14:05 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 13:59 rabidch wrote:
imo dagger shouldnt be changed

what should be changed is the fact that the vast majority of spells in dota2 dont destroy trees, and there is no item that allows you to destroy trees in an aoe


force staff

forgot about that one. still, its way too expensive for destroying trees
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 30 2014 05:48 GMT
#120457
just noticed tidehunter is rainbow colored now
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 30 2014 07:02 GMT
#120458
On July 30 2014 13:59 rabidch wrote:
imo dagger shouldnt be changed

what should be changed is the fact that the vast majority of spells in dota2 dont destroy trees, and there is no item that allows you to destroy trees in an aoe


bring back riki smoke to kill trees. that change still baffles me after all these years.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
July 30 2014 08:23 GMT
#120459
Portal gun
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 30 2014 09:12 GMT
#120460
On July 30 2014 16:02 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 13:59 rabidch wrote:
imo dagger shouldnt be changed

what should be changed is the fact that the vast majority of spells in dota2 dont destroy trees, and there is no item that allows you to destroy trees in an aoe


bring back riki smoke to kill trees. that change still baffles me after all these years.

It was to fix smoke vs treant tree eyes interaction or smth
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Prev 1 6021 6022 6023 6024 6025 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20:00
Premier - Group B
Reynor vs Zoun
Neeb vs Rogue
IntoTheiNu 1135
WardiTV527
Rex101
CranKy Ducklings91
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko327
Rex 99
Classic 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 53460
Calm 9257
Shuttle 1426
Bisu 1066
firebathero 609
EffOrt 358
Snow 305
Mini 290
Soma 276
Stork 225
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 190
Leta 161
Last 141
Light 132
Dewaltoss 108
ZerO 77
Rush 76
hero 75
Pusan 59
Hyun 57
Mong 46
Sharp 45
910 44
sorry 39
Killer 36
Barracks 34
NotJumperer 25
Shinee 25
HiyA 24
Sacsri 22
soO 18
Free 17
Movie 17
Hm[arnc] 16
Terrorterran 14
Noble 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Bishop 10
Dota 2
Gorgc8794
XaKoH 541
XcaliburYe178
Counter-Strike
x6flipin461
markeloff144
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr40
Other Games
singsing1895
B2W.Neo733
crisheroes316
dupreeh196
DeMusliM190
RotterdaM63
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1348
UltimateBattle 37
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 41
• maralekos10
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix7
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1711
Upcoming Events
OSC
11h 4m
FEL
1d 21h
Patches Events
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
FEL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-20
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.