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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 14 2014 19:37 GMT
#117801
Can u imagine the offering tho?

Literally 6 digits of commons offered to lord gaben.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 19:43:29
July 14 2014 19:41 GMT
#117802
On July 15 2014 04:37 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 04:32 andyrau wrote:
On July 15 2014 04:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm wondering when the D2 Lounge people are going to decide that their hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of items on their bots is worth absconding with.

it's only worth steam wallet money, not real money

and i was a vg fan before and during ti3, then liquid after ti3, and here i am again

VG failed in the qualifiers :o

yea but they got pretty close to beating lgd. if cty didnt suck so much dick with slark they couldve had itttttt

honestly I'm just a fan of super and fygod. and sylar at times.


On July 15 2014 04:36 Qbek wrote:
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On July 15 2014 04:32 andyrau wrote:
On July 15 2014 04:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm wondering when the D2 Lounge people are going to decide that their hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of items on their bots is worth absconding with.

it's only worth steam wallet money, not real money

and i was a vg fan before and during ti3, then liquid after ti3, and here i am again

That many items are sellable for real money too

you'd have to go through paypal and take the risk of a possible chargeback on the sale of digital items
not to mention the time consumption of selling it

steam market makes things retardedly easy but at the cost of dealing with gaben dollars
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 14 2014 19:45 GMT
#117803
I mean you can sell gaben dollars quite successfully iirc.

And when the prodota.ru interviewer asked Erik if he was okay with ppl selling steam stuff for money Erik basically said "well do you see us stopping them?" aka "We approve highly but can't legally say so" so...
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
July 14 2014 20:52 GMT
#117804


Pods being, i guess:

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"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
July 14 2014 21:01 GMT
#117805
seeing so many people new to dota saying they love the noob stream, really great to hear.
aaaaa
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#117806
casul gaem
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
July 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#117807
On July 15 2014 04:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 04:15 tauon wrote:
After game 3 of Titan vs Newbee, I'm starting to believe that level 1 rosh strats should be nerfed or eliminated. Seems pretty ridiculous that such an important game (which I stayed up for lol) should be decided by something so silly.

It's a huge risk and amazing if it pays off. It's exciting and able to be predicted. Sure it can back fire and make the game dull, but that's the price we pay for a game those varied and exciting.

We don't want to end up like SC2, with every interesting, exciting new strat nerfed because it's "bad for the game/viewers/sponsors/children/environment/ladder-experience/Esports"


I'd say the one negative about level 1 Rosh strats is the memorization of all the team compositions that can do it, but even then a lot of it is based around a set of potential heroes like Ursa, NP, Luna, etc.

In terms of actual game balance it seems to be fine as it backfires pretty quickly if things go wrong (in both draft and execution).
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 14 2014 21:29 GMT
#117808
alright im on 15 straight losses im so pissed off
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 14 2014 21:33 GMT
#117809
On July 15 2014 06:24 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 15 2014 04:15 tauon wrote:
After game 3 of Titan vs Newbee, I'm starting to believe that level 1 rosh strats should be nerfed or eliminated. Seems pretty ridiculous that such an important game (which I stayed up for lol) should be decided by something so silly.

It's a huge risk and amazing if it pays off. It's exciting and able to be predicted. Sure it can back fire and make the game dull, but that's the price we pay for a game those varied and exciting.

We don't want to end up like SC2, with every interesting, exciting new strat nerfed because it's "bad for the game/viewers/sponsors/children/environment/ladder-experience/Esports"


I'd say the one negative about level 1 Rosh strats is the memorization of all the team compositions that can do it, but even then a lot of it is based around a set of potential heroes like Ursa, NP, Luna, etc.

In terms of actual game balance it seems to be fine as it backfires pretty quickly if things go wrong (in both draft and execution).

Anybody with a clue how dota works can spot potential level 1 rosh lineups, although teams often forget it in the heat of the moment plus assuming the enemy wouldn't do it.

If you asked Titan if that lineup can level 1 rosh all 5 would easily recognize that "yeah that lineup would be quite quick at level 1 rosh".
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:38:17
July 14 2014 21:37 GMT
#117810
On July 15 2014 06:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:24 Logo wrote:
On July 15 2014 04:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 15 2014 04:15 tauon wrote:
After game 3 of Titan vs Newbee, I'm starting to believe that level 1 rosh strats should be nerfed or eliminated. Seems pretty ridiculous that such an important game (which I stayed up for lol) should be decided by something so silly.

It's a huge risk and amazing if it pays off. It's exciting and able to be predicted. Sure it can back fire and make the game dull, but that's the price we pay for a game those varied and exciting.

We don't want to end up like SC2, with every interesting, exciting new strat nerfed because it's "bad for the game/viewers/sponsors/children/environment/ladder-experience/Esports"


I'd say the one negative about level 1 Rosh strats is the memorization of all the team compositions that can do it, but even then a lot of it is based around a set of potential heroes like Ursa, NP, Luna, etc.

In terms of actual game balance it seems to be fine as it backfires pretty quickly if things go wrong (in both draft and execution).

Anybody with a clue how dota works can spot potential level 1 rosh lineups, although teams often forget it in the heat of the moment plus assuming the enemy wouldn't do it.

If you asked Titan if that lineup can level 1 rosh all 5 would easily recognize that "yeah that lineup would be quite quick at level 1 rosh".


The thing is, the vast majority of lineups can do a level 1 rosh, a lot more than people realize. Every time there's a Furion on the enemy team, are you supposed to bum rush towards the pit? Every time there's a Leoric do you need all five people to be immediately heading towards Roshan in case the enemy team is doing it?

EDIT: It also wasn't really a 'quick' rosh. Took them I think a full minute .
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 14 2014 22:09 GMT
#117811
On July 15 2014 06:29 teddyoojo wrote:
alright im on 15 straight losses im so pissed off

it's ok dude it's only mmr. stop caring about winning or losing and instead focus on your individual performance in each game and improving on mistakes you make regardless of the outcome. the only thing you can improve is yourself. #improvement #longroad #dedication
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 22:39:20
July 14 2014 22:37 GMT
#117812
On July 15 2014 07:09 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:29 teddyoojo wrote:
alright im on 15 straight losses im so pissed off

it's ok dude it's only mmr. stop caring about winning or losing and instead focus on your individual performance in each game and improving on mistakes you make regardless of the outcome. the only thing you can improve is yourself. #improvement #longroad #dedication

This is so much easier said than done...

EDIT:



Wow. That's quite a lot bigger than the last few years I'm pretty sure.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 14 2014 22:41 GMT
#117813
well i heard key arena is quite a lot bigger than beneroya
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 14 2014 22:50 GMT
#117814
True, should have put bigger than I expected.

Even from the pictures of the tent it didn't look like it would be that big.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 14 2014 22:59 GMT
#117815
On July 15 2014 07:37 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 07:09 crms wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:29 teddyoojo wrote:
alright im on 15 straight losses im so pissed off

it's ok dude it's only mmr. stop caring about winning or losing and instead focus on your individual performance in each game and improving on mistakes you make regardless of the outcome. the only thing you can improve is yourself. #improvement #longroad #dedication

This is so much easier said than done...


yeah dude it's fucking impossible but it's nice to hear every now and again even if you never actually utilize that mentality.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
July 14 2014 23:22 GMT
#117816
On July 15 2014 07:37 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 07:09 crms wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:29 teddyoojo wrote:
alright im on 15 straight losses im so pissed off

it's ok dude it's only mmr. stop caring about winning or losing and instead focus on your individual performance in each game and improving on mistakes you make regardless of the outcome. the only thing you can improve is yourself. #improvement #longroad #dedication

This is so much easier said than done...


Well the other thing to realize is that if you reach an MMR once you will reach it again eventually.
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
July 14 2014 23:26 GMT
#117817
On July 15 2014 07:09 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:29 teddyoojo wrote:
alright im on 15 straight losses im so pissed off

it's ok dude it's only mmr. stop caring about winning or losing and instead focus on your individual performance in each game and improving on mistakes you make regardless of the outcome. the only thing you can improve is yourself. #improvement #longroad #dedication

I very agree with this. Before every time I would lose on ranked it would make me so mad. I was sick of losing, so what I did is stop caring on mmr. It made me more relax on playing games.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 14 2014 23:31 GMT
#117818
the problem is when ur not satisfied with ur mmr before a -400 downswing in 3 days
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 14 2014 23:37 GMT
#117819
On July 15 2014 08:31 teddyoojo wrote:
the problem is when ur not satisfied with ur mmr before a -400 downswing in 3 days

not being satisfied with your mmr isn't the right thing to be concerned with. you shouldn't be satisfied with your own individual play. as you improve your own game, the mmr will come naturally.

i'm not saying i follow any of this directly, I mean I get super ragey and blamey but I think it's objectively the best way to approach the game. There will not be a game of dota that you play where you will play perfectly, regardless if you win or lose in the end. If we focus on ourselves, the shit play and moronic stuff you see in your average pub won't bother you so much. If you work on and recognize your own mistakes, even in games you play well and win, you'll become a much better player after X period of time. Which in the end, is all we hope to accomplish.

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 14 2014 23:55 GMT
#117820
On July 15 2014 08:37 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 08:31 teddyoojo wrote:
the problem is when ur not satisfied with ur mmr before a -400 downswing in 3 days

not being satisfied with your mmr isn't the right thing to be concerned with. you shouldn't be satisfied with your own individual play. as you improve your own game, the mmr will come naturally.

i'm not saying i follow any of this directly, I mean I get super ragey and blamey but I think it's objectively the best way to approach the game. There will not be a game of dota that you play where you will play perfectly, regardless if you win or lose in the end. If we focus on ourselves, the shit play and moronic stuff you see in your average pub won't bother you so much. If you work on and recognize your own mistakes, even in games you play well and win, you'll become a much better player after X period of time. Which in the end, is all we hope to accomplish.


you always make me really sad...
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