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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
The stuff I learn in General Discussion. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Stop diving boys. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On April 09 2014 03:42 DrPandaPhD wrote: How is the beaver knight courier not in game yet? No idea, will be a must-buy for me. Also i want to share this video because i can't see the video thread: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
I mean I've seen arteezy (Sorry whoever was complaining about him being mentioned a lot :D) have like a 22 minute drums + radiance + treads + manta or equivalently berserk amounts of farm, but that's AP pubs against uncoordinated teams. Recently in a C9 vs Navi match, + Show Spoiler + EE's 15 minute radiance naga doesn't even manage to outfarm Xboct's doom And most of the sleeps seem to buy their team a few more seconds to live, or sometimes escape. We're not seeing the vacuum smash combos of TI2, and I haven't seen much of anything set up out of sleeps aside from arrows. Iunno, I'm not seeing Naga as scarier than Lycan or other cores yet. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
It is however a fairly specific playstyle that you have to draft for and it is fraught with issues so its not like its "too good" IMO, just that it operates on a different field from most strategies so people often miss-evaluate who is "winning" and then complain when naga defies their expectations. Plus some people don't enjoy watching the "farm 6 items then win" plan. | ||
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andyrau
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I think item build differs a bit after bottle/boots too, ee likes getting arc and rtz likes getting aquila before the radiance. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
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Ru ba
Serbia1812 Posts
The only hard and skillful thing about radiance naga is getting the actual radiance in a reasonable time frame,from than on out I could teach a monkey how to win the game. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 09 2014 04:23 Ru ba wrote: I wish people would stop considering naga micro heavy and hard to use. The only hard and skillful thing about radiance naga is getting the actual radiance in a reasonable time frame,from than on out I could teach a monkey how to win the game. An interesting assertion considering how multiple professional carries have hit decent radiance timings then lost embarrassingly after not having the farm nor successfully keeping the creep equilibrium far enough out to not lose. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On April 09 2014 04:23 Ru ba wrote: I wish people would stop considering naga micro heavy and hard to use. The only hard and skillful thing about radiance naga is getting the actual radiance in a reasonable time frame,from than on out I could teach a monkey how to win the game. After I've seen Qojqva play Naga and standing still for almost 4sec~ after using mirror images I'm pretty sure playing a good Naga definetly requires at least decent micro-management. Definetly not talking about Chen or Meepo levels, but a level below that. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On April 09 2014 04:23 Ru ba wrote: I wish people would stop considering naga micro heavy and hard to use. The only hard and skillful thing about radiance naga is getting the actual radiance in a reasonable time frame,from than on out I could teach a monkey how to win the game. Naga is incredibly micro-heavy and hard to use. If you find it easy, you're not using the hero to its fullest potential. | ||
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Ru ba
Serbia1812 Posts
if not try it and than come back and tell me microing naga illusions is hard. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On April 09 2014 04:33 Ru ba wrote: I genuinely wonder if any of you played zvz in your life. Try micro archers against BladeMaster. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 09 2014 04:33 Ru ba wrote: I genuinely wonder if any of you played zvz in your life.or meepo for that matter if not try it and than come back and tell me microing naga illusions is hard. Wait, is this the part where you say that SC2 has true micro and anything in dota 2 is child's play? That it's all skill-less compaired to zvz? Are you going to make the same tired argument that people have already made and is boring as fuck? | ||
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Ru ba
Serbia1812 Posts
Making the right decision with naga takes a extreme amount of practice and experience.You only have so much illusions and every one of em counts because both manta and your Q have a pretty hefty cd especially when it comes to teamfights. People that have 0 experience with naga stick out like a sore thumb,like I've seen fata play naga and you can't tell me that that guy can't micro units,he just doesn't know(obviously didn't have the experience to know) what to do with them. The actual micro you do with naga illusions is pretty minimal if you really think about it,trust me.Take some players stream who is considered good at naga(rtz for example) and watch what hes doing with the illusions. | ||
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Plansix
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Comeh
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Ru ba
Serbia1812 Posts
On April 09 2014 04:59 Plansix wrote: I think you making broad, blanket statements about abstract concepts like "micro" and decision making. You decided that farming 2 camps and lane at the same time is easy, while using meepo is hard. Just because you think it doesn't make you right. micro and decision making are pretty clear concepts I don't know what your talking about. and yea that's just my opinion,no ones forcing you to agree with me | ||
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Kupon3ss
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