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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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rob.au
1087 Posts
I'd be super happy if they did some kind of reset, removed randoming, made solo q only option, and replaced ap with all draft for ranked but I know that's just wishful thinking. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On April 07 2014 23:57 rob.au wrote: I mean tons of people have very inflated mmr's because they stacked all the time before ranked was released which is what their solo mmr is based off. This adds to the amount of players that you are just like wtf ~5k mmr. I'd be super happy if they did some kind of reset, removed randoming, made solo q only option, and replaced ap with all draft for ranked but I know that's just wishful thinking. And you know why they should do this. Because NUMBERS! | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 07 2014 23:57 rob.au wrote: I mean tons of people have very inflated mmr's because they stacked all the time before ranked was released which is what their solo mmr is based off. This adds to the amount of players that you are just like wtf ~5k mmr. I'd be super happy if they did some kind of reset, removed randoming, made solo q only option, and replaced ap with all draft for ranked but I know that's just wishful thinking. And then they don't lose this mmr because they are in MMR heaven and of course no matter how bad they are they only get good teammates who carry them every game and over the course of a hundred games they still win 50 without contributing anything. Alright thats even dumber than MMR hell. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:00 Sn0_Man wrote: And then they don't lose this mmr because they are in MMR heaven and of course no matter how bad they are they only get good teammates who carry them every game and over the course of a hundred games they still win 50 without contributing anything. Alright thats even dumber than MMR hell. Let's be straight: it's all dumb and just a reason for people to defect blame as to why they really lost. And if they were in a higher MMR, they would just get their ass kicked. Busy way pro streams and you know that there are as many ass hates in high MMR who don't upgrade crow for 20 minutes. | ||
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SKYFISH__
Bulgaria153 Posts
On April 07 2014 23:56 teapoted wrote: As in everything, people who think they're good are the worst kind of people. And that's probably 4-4.5k. as a rule of thumb the shittier the player the more he flames. you can easily spot them because they flame you over things that should be common knowledge to anyone who has over 200 hours in this game "OMG support alch ROFL"-jungling pubseeker who rushed a 30 minute radiance "OMG DP is rushing boots of travel REPORTED" - the hard carry who is losing his safelane while im mowing down towers extra rat style "ROFL our axe has a bottle REPORT" - numerous idiots "OMG mid sniper didnt rek Viper wat a noob" - some moron who dodged a 1v1 mid with me playing viper and him sniper to show me how he will rek me in lane. i could probably go on but you're getting the idea i believe | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:03 Dubzex wrote: Elo heaven is sub 3k. Blissful ignorance down there. Don't talk about my people like that, we know we are bad. We just might thick that vanguard is a good item on anti-Mage.... Yeah fuck that guy, at least I was able to carry his ass till he got good items. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:09 SKYFISH__ wrote: as a rule of thumb the shittier the player the more he flames. Not even close to true. There's assholes everywhere. Last absolute mental guy I played with was the top-ranked player in the game (5.2k or something) | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:09 SKYFISH__ wrote: I get the idea, but those are people who think they're good. There's plenty of people who are bad and know they're bad, those are easier to play with in any game.as a rule of thumb the shittier the player the more he flames. you can easily spot them because they flame you over things that should be common knowledge to anyone who has over 200 hours in this game "OMG support alch ROFL"-jungling pubseeker who rushed a 30 minute radiance "OMG DP is rushing boots of travel REPORTED" - the hard carry who is losing his safelane while im mowing down towers extra rat style "ROFL our axe has a bottle REPORT" - numerous idiots "OMG mid sniper didnt rek Viper wat a noob" - some moron who dodged a 1v1 mid with me playing viper and him sniper to show me how he will rek me in lane. i could probably go on but you're getting the idea i believe So I think the people in the middle tier flame more. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
EDIT: personality can affect attitude, which affects skill in some way but we can;t go too far on that. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:00 Sn0_Man wrote: And then they don't lose this mmr because they are in MMR heaven and of course no matter how bad they are they only get good teammates who carry them every game and over the course of a hundred games they still win 50 without contributing anything. Alright thats even dumber than MMR hell. Unless you're going mid and feeding you aren't going to tank that hard if you're say a 4k mmr player on a 5k mmr account, especially when you consider all the random factors that influence the game. Think about how much you have to rape to get a high win % in solo q, the inverse is basically how much you have to suck to tank in solo q. | ||
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SKYFISH__
Bulgaria153 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:12 Sn0_Man wrote: Not even close to true. There's assholes everywhere. Last absolute mental guy I played with was the top-ranked player in the game (5.2k or something) yeah, the opposite side of the spectrum exists as well, although most experienced players are already used to having shitty games. what tips em over the line ( at least in my case, not that im that good at dota) is a streak of games where not only i have been losing but i've also gotten flamed to hell and back for no good reason. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:14 Qbek wrote: Thinking you're better than others or better than you actually are is a personality issue. Not a skill issue. And I would guess that is more common in mid-level players than the very high or very low. Obviously people still do flame in every tier.Flaming is related to personality , not skill. Stop drying to draw connections, there barely are any. EDIT: personality can affect attitude, which affects skill in some way but we can;t go too far on that. This is at least how I felt growing up in Lan cafes and going from a shit player to a very good player in games like CS. New players generally don't care. Really good players generally don't get too bothered. The people who shouted the most were always the people who were medicore. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
It all has to do with self confidence. People are truely confident in their skill don't need MMR or to yell at other players to know they are good. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
you can't upgrade the crow though ; ) I've played with people from all different kind of ratings and I have never thought "wow that guy should be way higher" yet idk. There is a pretty clear difference in skill every 500 rating I think. | ||
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govie
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On April 08 2014 00:09 SKYFISH__ wrote: you can easily spot them because they flame you over things that should be common knowledge to anyone who has over 200 hours in this game I can never believe how dumb some people are to be honest. Like...ok I can understand not knowing some specific small tricks or whatever. But yesterday I had a "support" Shadow Shaman on my team with in excess of a thousand hours of DOTA2 rush a Refresher. Leaving aside the fact that he was trilaning (which meant it was super slow) and the fact that it meant the other support had to take on literally all of the support duties and the fact it meant at the 25 minute mark people on the team are going "hey where's the mek?" only to realise he hadn't even started it. Leaving all that aside...you don't have the mana to support refresher on SS if you rush it first, and its REALLY REALLY OBVIOUS that you don't by just looking at the mana costs. I mean seriously people just do not turn their brains on sometimes. :-\ | ||
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