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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 04 2012 21:39 GMT
#9841
On May 05 2012 06:27 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:20 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On May 05 2012 06:15 Slomo wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:22 Spicy_Curry wrote:
So I've watched this KoroK guy play carry a lot now and he seems to be extremely solid. Havent ever seen him fail completely yet. What are your opinion on him? IMO he has lots of potential and can play a variety of heroes too.

This KoroK guy you're talking about was slapping people in Dota for a long time now. He has a ton of practise and played for some pro teams in the past. Its nothing new he is solid. ^^


i thought that he was a hon player?

Look for example at this article. Its the first article with his name I found on google. Its from 2010 and there is a solid team history on his side.


thanks for the info
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 04 2012 21:39 GMT
#9842
oh what korok is american? what kinda name is that? i thought he was Swedish or German for no reason xD
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 04 2012 23:28 GMT
#9843
On May 05 2012 06:39 NB wrote:
oh what korok is american? what kinda name is that? i thought he was Swedish or German for no reason xD

Maybe you were thinking of kuroky who is German.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
May 04 2012 23:55 GMT
#9844
On May 05 2012 06:39 NB wrote:
oh what korok is american? what kinda name is that? i thought he was Swedish or German for no reason xD

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Korok

Or you could also blame luminous who pronounces names the way he wants instead of how they're supposed to be pronounced.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#9845
On May 05 2012 08:28 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:39 NB wrote:
oh what korok is american? what kinda name is that? i thought he was Swedish or German for no reason xD

Maybe you were thinking of kuroky who is German.

no i know the 2 are different but i thought if the name sounds similar.... they must came from same place :-/
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Terrafros
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
May 05 2012 00:06 GMT
#9846
Damn. I have no idea what to do against Phantom Lancers in my games. I generally pick AoE heroes so I can weed through the illusions quickly while finding the real one, but he's so incredibly powerful late-game and has a stealth as well, all the while not seemingly being weakened to an extent like Riki or Gondar.

What are good counters, or good AoE heroes to counter Phantom Lancer? I'm thinking Storm Spirit(which I've used thus far), Tiny, etc.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 05 2012 00:08 GMT
#9847
try earthshaker. if you hit a good ult inbetween all the illus it should be fine.
otherwise just dont let him have an easy laning phase. if you can stop him from getting the radiance before 30min half your job is done.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
May 05 2012 00:09 GMT
#9848
Earth shaker is awesome. QoP, Lesh. He can be strong lategame but if you have dust he is easily gankable.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 05 2012 00:13 GMT
#9849
hahaha watching SB vs MUFC VODs... this ban pick requires some popcorn xD
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 00:15:03
May 05 2012 00:14 GMT
#9850
On May 05 2012 09:06 Terrafros wrote:
Damn. I have no idea what to do against Phantom Lancers in my games. I generally pick AoE heroes so I can weed through the illusions quickly while finding the real one, but he's so incredibly powerful late-game and has a stealth as well, all the while not seemingly being weakened to an extent like Riki or Gondar.

What are good counters, or good AoE heroes to counter Phantom Lancer? I'm thinking Storm Spirit(which I've used thus far), Tiny, etc.

Um if you are a carry... Battle fury or Mjollnir is the best counter to him. If not, well he's a hardcarry so going to be tough lategame
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 05 2012 00:16 GMT
#9851
does anybody know if the DH qualifiers tomorrow are casted?
id love to see kkys new team play.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 00:33:48
May 05 2012 00:33 GMT
#9852
play him like this and tell me he is gankable...


you can basicly use your illusion to farm while jungling while lanes are calling miss. This way a lot of dust on the enemy team will be wasted. Building stat early also give PL a certain level of tank which negate the QoP/ES instant-kill nukes by quite a bit.
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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 05 2012 00:38 GMT
#9853
On May 05 2012 09:16 paschl wrote:
does anybody know if the DH qualifiers tomorrow are casted?
id love to see kkys new team play.


They should be casted on http://www.twitch.tv/dotalive. They've done the last few DH qualifiers
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 05 2012 01:32 GMT
#9854
On May 05 2012 09:33 NB wrote:
play him like this and tell me he is gankable... + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVjGwfncd68


you can basicly use your illusion to farm while jungling while lanes are calling miss. This way a lot of dust on the enemy team will be wasted. Building stat early also give PL a certain level of tank which negate the QoP/ES instant-kill nukes by quite a bit.

I like the tranquil boots/vit booster/PMS combo instead of Vanguard.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 01:39:34
May 05 2012 01:36 GMT
#9855
I played with a Liquider tonight and didn't even asked his Liquid name >< Whoever you are, it was awesome !
Learned me and helped me to play a carry for the first time, it was fun. I'd already played ursa but it's not the same thing, it was nice to play an AM with near max items and not be on the receiving end for once :D
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 05 2012 02:44 GMT
#9856
On May 05 2012 10:32 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 09:33 NB wrote:
play him like this and tell me he is gankable... + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVjGwfncd68


you can basicly use your illusion to farm while jungling while lanes are calling miss. This way a lot of dust on the enemy team will be wasted. Building stat early also give PL a certain level of tank which negate the QoP/ES instant-kill nukes by quite a bit.

I like the tranquil boots/vit booster/PMS combo instead of Vanguard.

tranquil boots are the new farmers item. if you arent going for a 1st item that requires an RoH on a hero that needs that item, then tranquil boots is an amazing substitution for RoH. it's very rare anybody should be going vanguard now, the item isnt as good as it used to be and with tranquil boots it's a dead item on a lot of heroes. if you're still getting vanguard on any hero, you should consider trying out new builds

for PL late game if you cannot get good ganks on PL, and you're put into situations where you need to teamfight the other team, you need to setup some way to get rid of illusions quickly with items or zone them out. also your team needs to be very prepared for doppelwalks. the thing about PL is that with dust and wards he's easier to gank and kill than a spectre so in reality people just need to get used to playing against him.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 05 2012 03:50 GMT
#9857
Just played a game vs Phantom Lancer. We had knocked down their rax early on, but then my team of Bloodseeker, Silencer, and Razor just decided to farm after that. They almost came back and won because the PL just free farmed for a while. Thank god he didn't have buyback at the end X_X. Also, I won 4 in a row...I'm scared to continue.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 05 2012 04:15 GMT
#9858
On May 05 2012 12:50 Whole wrote:
Just played a game vs Phantom Lancer. We had knocked down their rax early on, but then my team of Bloodseeker, Silencer, and Razor just decided to farm after that. They almost came back and won because the PL just free farmed for a while. Thank god he didn't have buyback at the end X_X. Also, I won 4 in a row...I'm scared to continue.

Lol with that mentality i should quit dota long ago http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=334758
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 05 2012 04:22 GMT
#9859
On May 05 2012 09:33 NB wrote:
play him like this and tell me he is gankable... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVjGwfncd68

you can basicly use your illusion to farm while jungling while lanes are calling miss. This way a lot of dust on the enemy team will be wasted. Building stat early also give PL a certain level of tank which negate the QoP/ES instant-kill nukes by quite a bit.


thanks!!!:3 did the exact same build and own quite hard. the pushing ability is just insane and i quite enjoy confusing people lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
May 05 2012 04:23 GMT
#9860
Ursa is never picked competitively and I understand all the reasons that've been said - he's melee, easily disabled, somewhat item dependant, countered by ghost scepter etc.

The thing is, if you have a team build around him with disables, he just instantly kills any hero and easily snowballs, especially once he has his bkb (i.e. he can't be slowed anymore)

I don't play at a pro level duh but I fail to see why isn't he picked with a team built around him.
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