General Discussion - Page 4645

On January 05 2014 23:17 Oktyabr wrote:
That's the post I was referring to, I grabbed the youtube link from there. The user going by gsgcharles nailed it pretty much:

" Stop giving non-Chinese viewers the wrong information, I was watching the Chinese stream for the entire game 2 as well. iG was picking on iceiceice because the crowd was shouting iceiceice Timbersaw = autowin.
I personally did not pick up Hao saying anything about iceiceice being a foreigner. Furthermore, no one from iG has used any swearing or any offensive languages in their taunts. Hao did not even come close to saying "fucking retarded", all he said was "have you turned dumb?", which IMO is perfectly fine giving the LAN situation.
On the other hand, I think most of what Hao said was very entertaining. For example, Timbersaw in Chinese is called "wood-cutting-machine" and Hao said "wood-cutting-machine? more like automatic-teller-machine". Hao was also taunting that he was going to finish BKB soon when he had 1K gold in his bank and no BKB components, the whole crowd laughed. Hao was also shouting stuff like "we can let anyone live, but we must kill iceiceice", and "I don't even know how i can lose now". "


There was one subbed version on youtube with red subtitles that had quite a few errors in translation too. Ok technically speaking the background story checks out - in that Hao and Banana has something against foreigners. Towards the end of the vod when they were fountain diving, they said "we won't kill our own" after they've killed Mushi and iceiceice, and the fact that they've only taunted the 2 of them through out the match says something. This isn't racism you're looking at though, more like nationalism because both mushi and iceiceice are ethnic Chinese.

On January 05 2014 23:54 FakeDeath wrote:
Hao has been very vocal on LAN and doing these type of taunt for a very long time.

I don't really think Hao is racist.
Considering Hao is good friends with Chuan and they play pubs together a lot.
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Well Banana on the other hand has something against foreigners considering he called Chuan a Malaysian dog.
Which is a racist remark.

On January 06 2014 03:34 Shaella wrote:
jesus christ was there an elo hell discussion?


Ranked really is the worst thing

On January 06 2014 03:41 Plansix wrote:

It bring to light how bad people are at Dota and then they spend a lot of time denying it.

On January 05 2014 20:41 Kazzoo wrote:
Sometimes you are just stuck at a MMR that slightly underestimates you, and you get put, let's say, in a 3k3 MMR game but you are actually 3k5 but to win it alone you'd need 4k, (numers completely arbitrary).

On January 06 2014 04:11 govie wrote:


Sundays brings out the worst in people. never ranked on sundays.

On January 06 2014 05:09 Esoterikk wrote:


Never play in general on sundays, I've gotten nothing but mouthbreathing south americans all day and people who have no concept of map control/playing safe.

On January 06 2014 04:43 TheYango wrote:

That's just you overestimating the resolution of the rating system. 200 rating is not really that meaningful of a difference. It's basically an 8 game win/loss streak which is pretty reasonable to have even starting from your "correct" MMR. Crying about being stuck 200 rating below your "true" rating is just a load of shit because the system doesn't meaningfully resolve that kind of difference anyway.

On January 06 2014 05:19 trinxified wrote:
Reading through the last few pages... I get it and all, but what does "ELO hell" even mean?

People getting stuck at a certain MMR level but think they deserve much higher? If that's the case, they should be able to increase pretty quickly and get out of this "hell" right since they are better than everyone else they are playing with.

And playing the same hero over and over again just to increase MMR in order to internet brag is just lame. Hit the random button then brag about MMR. Although I'm sure someone will come out and say that the 200 extra gold is the reason you're winning games.