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dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 17:51:54
November 30 2013 17:49 GMT
#88641
On December 01 2013 02:45 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:39 Excludos wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:35 TheYango wrote:
You can't action people for that because there are only 3 language selections right now. Actioning people for not speaking any of those 3 is basically just punishing them for being unable to speak English/Russian/Chinese.


You would need a complete overhall of the system. But I dont think you should get away clicking on English when you dont speak a word of it. People can talk the language they want, but they should be put togheter with other who speak the same language. I dont see why certain people (three posts above) seems to think this is completely unreasonable to desire.

Because Valve doesn't want to enforce stupid limitations


Its not a stupid restriction. Its to stop liers from getting away and ruining the experience. I dont think Russians would be very fond if me if I clicked on the russian language, queued in russia, and proceeded to spam Norwegian in chat.

I don't know when was the last time you actually read what that language thing in the preferences even means, but you should read it again before calling people liars. You will learn a great many things.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
November 30 2013 17:50 GMT
#88642
On December 01 2013 02:46 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:39 Excludos wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:35 TheYango wrote:
You can't action people for that because there are only 3 language selections right now. Actioning people for not speaking any of those 3 is basically just punishing them for being unable to speak English/Russian/Chinese.

But I dont think you should get away clicking on English when you dont speak a word of it.

So what do we do about people that don't speak any of the three languages at a level where communication during a game is viable? Or what about people that don't feel comfortable talking any of the three languages with other because they don't feel they're good enough at the language? Because these people exist.

Iiterally answered this in the rest of the post you quoted. It would require an overhaul of the system.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
November 30 2013 17:52 GMT
#88643
On December 01 2013 02:49 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 02:45 Excludos wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:39 Excludos wrote:
On December 01 2013 02:35 TheYango wrote:
You can't action people for that because there are only 3 language selections right now. Actioning people for not speaking any of those 3 is basically just punishing them for being unable to speak English/Russian/Chinese.


You would need a complete overhall of the system. But I dont think you should get away clicking on English when you dont speak a word of it. People can talk the language they want, but they should be put togheter with other who speak the same language. I dont see why certain people (three posts above) seems to think this is completely unreasonable to desire.

Because Valve doesn't want to enforce stupid limitations


Its not a stupid restriction. Its to stop liers from getting away and ruining the experience. I dont think Russians would be very fond if me if I clicked on the russian language, queued in russia, and proceeded to spam Norwegian in chat.

I don't know when was the last time you actually read what that language thing in the preferences even means, but you should read it again. You will learn a great many things.


Id probably learn why it doesn't work currently? Does people ignore on purpose when I said it wouldn't work currently and it would require some kind of overhaul?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 30 2013 18:03 GMT
#88644
My main's DSR is 1025, top 30%. One of my smurfs is 1286, top 5%. Time to put the rest of my smurfs through this...
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Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
November 30 2013 18:14 GMT
#88645
Im probably the worse player here.
Player DSR is: 667



This player has a Bronze DSR score (top 80%)
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
November 30 2013 18:20 GMT
#88646
On December 01 2013 03:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
My main's DSR is 1025, top 30%. One of my smurfs is 1286, top 5%. Time to put the rest of my smurfs through this...

Funny, my main is apparently 1247, whatever that means, and it's top10%. So im 39 points behind top5% I guess

Probably ranked on stupid shit like kda, since I'm such an effective killstealer.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
November 30 2013 18:22 GMT
#88647
On December 01 2013 01:00 toemn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 00:48 Erasme wrote:
On December 01 2013 00:46 Excludos wrote:
On December 01 2013 00:42 solidbebe wrote:
On December 01 2013 00:42 Numy wrote:
On December 01 2013 00:29 toemn wrote:
Two steps in order to make Dota a 10/10 game:
- Region Locking
- Seperate ranking ladder

Atleast one of these two is implemented in the next big patch, I can feel it.


What the fuck. Seriously just what the fuck. Why on EARTH would you WANT region locking. Christ people go so fucking far to make excuses for being shit.

'but but all the russians are ruining my games!!'


Only people who havent dealt with it doesnt think its a problem not being able to communicate in a team game. Christ people are so ignorant. "I dont have a problem with it so its not a problem! ". I dont think region locking is the answer tho.

I'm sorry I played more than 3k games and I don't have any problem with it. Get better, your games will suck less.


99% of my games are in Very High and I agree there a fewer russians ruining the game (there is still lots of them though). But have you ever played a smurf account or queued with friends? I'm not exaggerating but there are atleast 5 russians in every game. I think you are trolling so I will stop here.

And it should be obvious that region locking is not THE solution. Maybe making speaking any other language then what you queued for reportable and after a certain amount of reports disabling the option for queing for that language. There was a really clever solution posted on reddit a few days ago. I think there were non obvious disadvantages to it.



You could be playing front page with Inphinity and Mason and still end up with dumpsters. Dota's matchmaking system is still completely fucked.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
November 30 2013 18:28 GMT
#88648
Play frontpage with WHO ? :S
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 18:30:46
November 30 2013 18:30 GMT
#88649
1467 on smurf, higher than EGM, I can't wait to quit my job for pro dota.

This player has a Pro DSR score (top 3%).


My main is only Gold b/c like I don't try and stuff and goof around, clearly this rating system is super good and I am in fact a PRO player.

/cough /cough
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
November 30 2013 18:39 GMT
#88650
On December 01 2013 03:28 BlitzerSC wrote:
Play frontpage with WHO ? :S




Inphi/Mason are NADota pubstars that are pretty solid, and probably could play for a pro NA team if they wanted to.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 30 2013 19:06 GMT
#88651
maybe dignitas wanna pick up one of them, i heard they dont have a team anymore
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 30 2013 19:18 GMT
#88652
Maybe they could put together an NADota stack with some of the more notable free agents. I think ppd, inphinity, bLeek, Korok and bdiz are available.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 30 2013 19:26 GMT
#88653
mason and all those guys are really good pub players and probably have individual skill to compete with professionals but I'm not sure they have the discipline or desire to actually go pro if that makes sense.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 30 2013 19:27 GMT
#88654
you think? i dunno you can maybe take 5 of those really good na pub players and see if they maybe have discipline or desire to maybe qualify mlg or smthn
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2013 19:40 GMT
#88655
Realistically a pubstar with the desire to go pro would have tried hard enough to get onto a team to be known as such in the community already. It's not like the DotA 2 professional scene hasn't already been amenable to players like this who were good enough.
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Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
November 30 2013 19:42 GMT
#88656
On December 01 2013 04:18 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Maybe they could put together an NADota stack with some of the more notable free agents. I think ppd, inphinity, bLeek, Korok and bdiz are available.

They had a team with (almost) that lineup, it was called Dignitas
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 30 2013 19:53 GMT
#88657
On December 01 2013 04:27 teddyoojo wrote:
you think? i dunno you can maybe take 5 of those really good na pub players and see if they maybe have discipline or desire to maybe qualify mlg or smthn


i c wat u did thar

SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
November 30 2013 21:01 GMT
#88658
its a terrible metric/system.. I have 713 or something, yet im always top 5 page/very high skill games, and I just beat EG.MSS in a game this week.. so clearly im not only top 80%.

I always play support/offlane, never 1 or 2. So clearly it has some basis of XP or gold or kills in the system. Not a worthwhile system. Calculate it on win percentage vs other opponents and It makes more sense (or even assists; I get like 20+ assists each game as a support)
Favorites: Moon, Grubby, Naniwa, TAiLS, viOLeT, DongRaeGu
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 30 2013 21:03 GMT
#88659
Don't lie to yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
November 30 2013 21:08 GMT
#88660
Lol Ensoe is #7 right now.

Not sure if this rates your skill or tryhardness.
Skol
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