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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
November 24 2013 06:58 GMT
#88041
I just want sigma to be the new nth

Now you won't forget about them in power ranks and write them off as cheap wins for Fnatic/Liquid/Speed (eh riptide ?)
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
November 24 2013 07:01 GMT
#88042
I haven't had the time to watch MLG, how was the games?
Mew Mew Pew Pew
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
November 24 2013 07:03 GMT
#88043
On November 24 2013 15:58 ArcticRaven wrote:
I just want sigma to be the new nth

Now you won't forget about them in power ranks and write them off as cheap wins for Fnatic/Liquid/Speed (eh riptide ?)


So who gets kicked?
The Turtle Moves
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
November 24 2013 07:07 GMT
#88044
7ckingmad so he'll really be 7ckingmad
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 24 2013 07:38 GMT
#88045
Sigma's going to go the same way as all the other teams the Frenchies have been on (mTw, DD/Quantic). Play some fantastic DotA for a few months and then just utterly collapse due to internal leadership issues on the eve of TI.

I don't want to single them out, but given their history with both their prior teams they don't seem like stable teammates when things get tough.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 24 2013 07:55 GMT
#88046
On November 24 2013 16:38 TheYango wrote:
Sigma's going to go the same way as all the other teams the Frenchies have been on (mTw, DD/Quantic). Play some fantastic DotA for a few months and then just utterly collapse due to internal leadership issues on the eve of TI.

I don't want to single them out, but given their history with both their prior teams they don't seem like stable teammates when things get tough.

If you put it that way you could say the same about every team minus Alliance and Navi...
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 24 2013 07:57 GMT
#88047
On November 24 2013 16:01 Mithhaike wrote:
I haven't had the time to watch MLG, how was the games?

Crazy. Some insanely good games. Especially with knowing that your fav. team really needs that win.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
November 24 2013 08:15 GMT
#88048
Sigma out of nowhere. Really impressive.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
November 24 2013 08:19 GMT
#88049
Sigma and Speed with a standin making it to top 4 are both huge surprises, holy shit. Can't wait for playoffs.
super gg
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 24 2013 08:33 GMT
#88050
On November 24 2013 16:55 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 16:38 TheYango wrote:
Sigma's going to go the same way as all the other teams the Frenchies have been on (mTw, DD/Quantic). Play some fantastic DotA for a few months and then just utterly collapse due to internal leadership issues on the eve of TI.

I don't want to single them out, but given their history with both their prior teams they don't seem like stable teammates when things get tough.

If you put it that way you could say the same about every team minus Alliance and Navi...

Sigma reminds me a lot of DD/Quantic, mtw and a little bit of mouz. They're this team that often wins by having unorthodox (Goblak) drafts and look pretty good up until TI draws near.

Teams start becoming way more serious at that time frame and the skill discrepancy like we've seen with the teams he mentioned just falls so far in the bottom. I don't think leadership is what killed Quantic though, I think it's that teams just figured out their gimmick and falls short at playing the actual game.

Fata is a player that has always held promise.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 24 2013 08:44 GMT
#88051
If I could suggest one thing for Liquid is for them to walk into every LAN match without expectations. From the bulba and way to interview, they seem to do fine going into games where they expect the worst or nothing at all.

They went into the LGD.CN game in TI3 thinking they were going to lose, they won against Alliance not over complicating things like they have in their other matches. Stop thinking so much Liquid and just play your game.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 24 2013 09:20 GMT
#88052
On November 24 2013 16:55 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 16:38 TheYango wrote:
Sigma's going to go the same way as all the other teams the Frenchies have been on (mTw, DD/Quantic). Play some fantastic DotA for a few months and then just utterly collapse due to internal leadership issues on the eve of TI.

I don't want to single them out, but given their history with both their prior teams they don't seem like stable teammates when things get tough.

If you put it that way you could say the same about every team minus Alliance and Navi...

Well no, look at the circumstances around both mTw and Quantic's collapse. Most teams that fall apart just become more generally dysfunctional. It's not "X and Y players who happened to have done the exact same thing on their last team decided to just piss off and stop listening to their captain after some disagreements in practice/mediocre results". Which is EXACTLY what we heard about happening on mTw and Quantic with the EXACT same players.

I chalked it up as being rumors and hearsay or Synderen just spinning the circumstances his own way when mTw collapsed around the time of TI2, but after we heard the same thing about Quantic's abrupt collapse at TI3, those 3 players (7ckingmad, Sockshka, Funzii) raise a red flag at least in my mind.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
November 24 2013 09:29 GMT
#88053
On November 24 2013 18:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 16:55 SilverStar wrote:
On November 24 2013 16:38 TheYango wrote:
Sigma's going to go the same way as all the other teams the Frenchies have been on (mTw, DD/Quantic). Play some fantastic DotA for a few months and then just utterly collapse due to internal leadership issues on the eve of TI.

I don't want to single them out, but given their history with both their prior teams they don't seem like stable teammates when things get tough.

If you put it that way you could say the same about every team minus Alliance and Navi...

Well no, look at the circumstances around both mTw and Quantic's collapse. Most teams that fall apart just become more generally dysfunctional. It's not "X and Y players who happened to have done the exact same thing on their last team decided to just piss off and stop listening to their captain after some disagreements in practice/mediocre results". Which is EXACTLY what we heard about happening on mTw and Quantic with the EXACT same players.

I chalked it up as being rumors and hearsay or Synderen just spinning the circumstances his own way when mTw collapsed around the time of TI2, but after we heard the same thing about Quantic's abrupt collapse at TI3, those 3 players (7ckingmad, Sockshka, Funzii) raise a red flag at least in my mind.

Quatic lost the wildcard match against Rattlesnake. Is that what you so dramatically call the "Quantic's abrupt collapse at TI3"?
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 24 2013 09:35 GMT
#88054
Did we all suddenly forget about how the drama when that team collapsed on the spot was the exact same shit about the Frenchies not listening to Goblak/Synderen anymore as happened when mTw fell apart? Am I just imagining that we got that drama in the wake of them losing to RSnake?
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 09:47:56
November 24 2013 09:47 GMT
#88055
On November 24 2013 17:33 Kuroeeah wrote:

Sigma reminds me a lot of DD/Quantic, mtw and a little bit of mouz.


I can't imagine why...
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 24 2013 09:49 GMT
#88056
On November 24 2013 18:35 TheYango wrote:
Did we all suddenly forget about how the drama when that team collapsed on the spot was the exact same shit about the Frenchies not listening to Goblak/Synderen anymore as happened when mTw fell apart? Am I just imagining that we got that drama in the wake of them losing to RSnake?


But how can the frenchies stop following the captain if the captain is a frenchy, Remember Napoleon's 100 Days~
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 24 2013 09:49 GMT
#88057
On November 24 2013 18:35 TheYango wrote:
Did we all suddenly forget about how the drama when that team collapsed on the spot was the exact same shit about the Frenchies not listening to Goblak/Synderen anymore as happened when mTw fell apart? Am I just imagining that we got that drama in the wake of them losing to RSnake?

well there's no more Funzii anymore, so maybe that'll change
idk.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
November 24 2013 09:49 GMT
#88058
I remember the drama from TI2. I don't remember any from TI3, to be honest. I think the franchies and goblak + silent split up on relatively good terms after TI3. And I think the french might've been right about synderen, fata said similar stuff after TI3 about him.
super gg
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
November 24 2013 09:50 GMT
#88059
Sigma have 1 less french dude now (Funzii) So I want to see whether the curse stay or disappear lol but yeah it could be those 3 or they have rebel against the weaker captain during that time.
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 24 2013 09:53 GMT
#88060
I just checked. NS said it on the Russian stream about how Goblak was not allowed to draft the way they wanted and they didn't listen to him. But the LR thread basically ignored the comment because they'd rather discuss a Loda tweet at Arteezy criticizing people in the 1v1 tournament.
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