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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
November 23 2013 05:51 GMT
#87961
Since when is the MLG demographic different from all the other eSports demographics globally?
Once you Goblak...
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 05:52:46
November 23 2013 05:52 GMT
#87962
It's big on Call of Duty whose players are generally your average Xbox live basement dweller?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 05:54:15
November 23 2013 05:52 GMT
#87963
On November 23 2013 14:50 RuskiPanda wrote:
I also think you're overestimating how much average dota 2 fans (or MLG viewers) care about "promoting Esports" or whatever.

I would assume that anyone who actually cares enough to pay money and take time out of their normal schedule to GO to MLG means they care enough about the event's existence to be disappointed if another one doesn't happen.

We're not talking about Twitch chat here, we're talking about people who went out of their way to pay money and make time to go to the event. Which means they're at least invested enough in the experience for that cost to be worthwhile to them.
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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
November 23 2013 05:54 GMT
#87964
On November 23 2013 14:28 Plansix wrote:
Blah blah blah, they need to toughen up and put on their big boy pants. Some 14-16 year olds said mean things, life is so hard.

Eagles fans would throw D batteries at the other team. Until acid fill peices of metal fly through the air, the cool million alliance won can help them deal with the mean teenagers.


I still remember you taking offense to the term "casual" in reference to gamers elsewhere on these forums.

Which brings context to the query: "What the actual fuck?"
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 23 2013 05:56 GMT
#87965
In any case from what the reddit thread seems to say it was just basically a few guys randomly shouting it. People further back didn't even hear them so even if it is pretty rude it feels like Loda is overblowing a few random tards into a "shitty american crowd".
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 23 2013 05:56 GMT
#87966
On November 23 2013 14:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 14:50 RuskiPanda wrote:
I also think you're overestimating how much average dota 2 fans (or MLG viewers) care about "promoting Esports" or whatever.

I would assume that anyone who actually cares enough to pay money and take time out of their normal schedule to GO to MLG means they care enough about the event's existence to be disappointed if another one doesn't happen.

We're not talking about Twitch chat here, we're talking about people who went out of their way to pay money and make time to go to the event. Which means they're at least invested enough in the experience for that cost to be worthwhile to them.


At least they're not booing loud enough to be heard on stream
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 23 2013 05:57 GMT
#87967
We need more Naga Siren ults
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
November 23 2013 05:59 GMT
#87968
someone call /u/esportsrep on reddit to make sense of all of this please
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 07:13:33
November 23 2013 05:59 GMT
#87969
On November 23 2013 14:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 14:50 RuskiPanda wrote:
I also think you're overestimating how much average dota 2 fans (or MLG viewers) care about "promoting Esports" or whatever.

I would assume that anyone who actually cares enough to pay money to GO to MLG means they care enough about the event's existence to be disappointed if another one doesn't happen.
While I agree that they care I don't think they really understand that.

Like I was watching a PoE race last year or so. And one guy has a bunch of fans of course. So they all go into the streams of their opponents and say their shit and they shouldn't be racing and bla bla. As it turns out, if the other people weren't racing, it wouldn't even have been a close competition, it wouldn't have been interesting at all. But these people don't really think that far ahead.
Once you Goblak...
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 06:05:27
November 23 2013 06:03 GMT
#87970
I like (hate) how a generalization of what one or a few people said now applies to the entire crowd... and worse yet, "Americans"... even worse than putting it on just the crowd in the room.

"A few people were dicks to me. F--- everyone in this room, and this place."

As for getting booed, zero sympathy to be honest. It happens in every competitive venue. Most competitors draw energy off of it.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
November 23 2013 06:25 GMT
#87971
On November 23 2013 15:03 Rybka wrote:
I like (hate) how a generalization of what one or a few people said now applies to the entire crowd... and worse yet, "Americans"... even worse than putting it on just the crowd in the room.

"A few people were dicks to me. F--- everyone in this room, and this place."

As for getting booed, zero sympathy to be honest. It happens in every competitive venue. Most competitors draw energy off of it.


One, that goes both ways.

Two, who is even doing that?
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
November 23 2013 06:30 GMT
#87972
man what a poor performance by rtz in his lan debut
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
November 23 2013 06:31 GMT
#87973
On November 23 2013 13:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:
And according to kelly milkies alliance were shaking in fear in the booths. I think we have a possible recipient for most ridiculous use of hyperbole in 2013. Pretty sure she already deleted it from reddit. I'd like to point out that this, unlike what loda said on twitter, is not the first hostile/rude crowd alliance has dealt with, leading me to question the sound proofing of the booths.


what a bunch of pansies
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
November 23 2013 06:54 GMT
#87974
I think the "die loda" thing is blown way out of proportion. Shaking in their booths, really?

When MC said "I kill you" [tm Achmed] to his opponent on stage, did anyone get bent out of shape over it? zomg MC said he's going to kill someone! Throw him out of the venue asap! #banned

People probably cheered that Loda's hero died in game, geez!
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
November 23 2013 06:59 GMT
#87975
On November 23 2013 15:54 Elurie wrote:
I think the "die loda" thing is blown way out of proportion. Shaking in their booths, really?

When MC said "I kill you" [tm Achmed] to his opponent on stage, did anyone get bent out of shape over it? zomg MC said he's going to kill someone! Throw him out of the venue asap! #banned

People probably cheered that Loda's hero died in game, geez!


A funny comeback or remark is vastly different to a holligan shouting profanity. Like other people said, because its accepted in other sports doesn't mean we have to. We should be better than this.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 23 2013 07:55 GMT
#87976
On November 23 2013 14:41 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Godz says he didn't hear anything out of the ordinary.

And the more video games become esports, the more like actual sports they become. Partisan crowds come with the territory. Sometimes it manifests as fans jumping up and down to throw off your rhythm. Other times it's Manchester United singing 'sit down you paedophile' for ninety minutes every match for ten years. I don't see any reason to feel sorry for Loda, nor Paddy Kenny after he got the 'you would have saved it if it was a pie' treatment.

One of the things that needs to be mentioned, is that this is dota. Yelling at someone to die in a dota game can have a very different meaning that telling someone to die at a sporting event. It could be a misunderstanding by loda blown out of proportion by reddit and the alliance team manager, assuming that she really said and deleted that and I didn't fall for a troll. I've yelled at a dota player to die while watching a game, but I don't want loda to have a heart attack because he blew his buyback and is at 50 health running away from dendi with the game on the line. MLG crowds have never been shy about rooting for a certain player loudly, and that could be what all of this is about. For that matter a later tweet was him saying it was just a couple of people, and not to make a big deal out of it.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 23 2013 09:18 GMT
#87977
On November 23 2013 15:03 Rybka wrote:
I like (hate) how a generalization of what one or a few people said now applies to the entire crowd... and worse yet, "Americans"... even worse than putting it on just the crowd in the room.

"A few people were dicks to me. F--- everyone in this room, and this place."

As for getting booed, zero sympathy to be honest. It happens in every competitive venue. Most competitors draw energy off of it.

The same way I feel about the constant Russian bashing in the Dota 2 community.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
November 23 2013 10:08 GMT
#87978
Can anyone who is actually attending MLG clear out this situation? People on reddit who are attending MLG said they heard nothing out of the ordinary and are blaming Loda and Kelly for blowing this out of proportion ( Shaking in the booths, Seriously?)

But I'd much rather have a first hand account of a TLer who is attending MLG
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
November 23 2013 10:35 GMT
#87979
What a bunch of crybabies. I guess that's one more reason to dislike them.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 23 2013 10:39 GMT
#87980
the kelly touch
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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