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maos
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 22:32:20
November 21 2013 22:31 GMT
#87701
Yeah I really don't get the negativity towards having 2 TP's, if you're a core that is. Having two TP's doesn't mean that you're going to tp to lane instead of running, but as Sn0_Man mentioned, it helps you if you tp to help someone and need to use one again just a little bit later. You never know if this is going to happen, and you never know where you're going to be. Spending an extra 135 to always make sure you can tp once you're off cooldown has always been worth it for me. It's not like I'm going to sell the tp if I don't need it in the next five minutes, it's always useful.

Of course, there's a big difference between having 2 and having 3 or 4. You never need 3 or 4 TP's.
When he was just 14 years old, Daryl Koh Pei Xiang knew that he was different from the other kids around him. He felt alone in a sea of noobs
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 21 2013 22:32 GMT
#87702
you know rich supports already happened in league of legends with new gold changes announced months ago
dota was just trying to copy that with midas on every support
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 21 2013 22:52 GMT
#87703
On November 22 2013 04:49 aintz wrote:
you can not separate items, the russian was just clueless about what he was saying.

Standard. :D
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 22:58:52
November 21 2013 22:58 GMT
#87704
Finest
Stop.

just no
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 21 2013 23:03 GMT
#87705
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 21 2013 23:07 GMT
#87706
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

Go play a game of LoL.
Come back, i can wait for you to admit just how painfully wrong you are.

Source - Supports actually do things in dota
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
November 21 2013 23:07 GMT
#87707
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 21 2013 23:09 GMT
#87708
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
November 21 2013 23:10 GMT
#87709
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 21 2013 23:23 GMT
#87710
On November 22 2013 08:10 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.

Yeah, and they can ONLY have 20 wards on the map at one time!
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 23:31:55
November 21 2013 23:31 GMT
#87711
Can anyone name a really kickass game that happened in the past four days real quick? Have a small break and want me some dota
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 23:39:23
November 21 2013 23:34 GMT
#87712
On November 22 2013 08:10 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.

Technically it's not bonus gold for lasthitting it, but bonus "assist" gold for participating in the tower kill.

It effectively means split-pushing a tower down gives your team less overall gold than 5-man pushing it.

On November 22 2013 08:07 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

Go play a game of LoL.
Come back, i can wait for you to admit just how painfully wrong you are.

Source - Supports actually do things in dota

In general, 6.79 is a lot more midgame focused, and a lot more 5-man focused, which is more LoL-y in the sense of having less focus on heroes with lopsided power curves and less split-push based play.

I think 6.78 was a very polarizing version because you either loved "rat dota" or you hated it. A large percentage of the player-base finds 5-man oriented DotA much more fun to watch and fun to play (regardless of how you feel about split-pushing, you do have to admit that it can lead to long farming phases which result in long lulls in the action which can bore inexperienced spectators).
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 23:57:22
November 21 2013 23:56 GMT
#87713
On November 22 2013 08:23 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:10 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.

Yeah, and they can ONLY have 20 wards on the map at one time!


30, 10 of which are free
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 22 2013 00:02 GMT
#87714
On November 22 2013 08:56 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:23 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:10 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.

Yeah, and they can ONLY have 20 wards on the map at one time!


30, 10 of which are free

how horrifying.

Like seriously i'm horrified.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
November 22 2013 00:05 GMT
#87715
On November 22 2013 08:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
Can anyone name a really kickass game that happened in the past four days real quick? Have a small break and want me some dota

I'm not sure what you mean by "kickass" game, but Navi Alliance in dreamleague was kinda special.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:30:21
November 22 2013 00:28 GMT
#87716
On November 22 2013 08:56 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:23 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:10 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.

Yeah, and they can ONLY have 20 wards on the map at one time!


30, 10 of which are free

ah nope. Those free wards are still counted as 1, so if you have free ward, you only need to put 2 more.
On November 22 2013 09:02 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:56 Kupon3ss wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:23 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:10 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.

Yeah, and they can ONLY have 20 wards on the map at one time!


30, 10 of which are free

how horrifying.

Like seriously i'm horrified.

lol. Wards in lol only last 3 minutes, you can place a ward and walk to the other side of the map and the ward already half way expires.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 22 2013 00:39 GMT
#87717
"Alright everyone gets free infinite minerals!"

The starcraft equivalent of being able to have 20 wards in a dota.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:42:10
November 22 2013 00:41 GMT
#87718
On November 22 2013 07:18 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 07:01 Targe wrote:
On November 22 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:
On November 22 2013 03:14 Comeh wrote:
The worst is when im a carry about to die from a gank and I'm trying to spend my unreliable gold (but forgot to put my next item in quickbuy), i'll just mash TP a few times to spend the money.

...And then i will check the courier and see 2 tp's on it already. 5 TPs on a carry seems a bit redundant.

Your investing in the future. Buy TPs now, then you can afford those needed items later. Plus you get bonus gold from all those ganks and kill steals you can now do thanks to those extra TPs.

You don't need 2 TPs for those kills and assists. You need 1.

Blah blah blah, I need tr second TP for when we are pushing mid after the gank and then need to TP back to protect the pushed other lane that is being pushed. #planning101

you have a minute to purchase that next TP
On November 22 2013 09:39 Comeh wrote:
"Alright everyone gets free infinite minerals!"

The starcraft equivalent of being able to have 20 wards in a dota.

watchtowers huehue
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:44:52
November 22 2013 00:41 GMT
#87719
BTS official stream for starladder.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 22 2013 00:44 GMT
#87720
On November 22 2013 08:34 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:10 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:09 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:07 dfs wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

LoL is a little more Dota-ly next season as well. Hm...

how is actively encouraging supports to hold their dicks in lane and do nothing more dota-y

augh

Towers give more gold to the guy who killed it. First step to perfection.

Technically it's not bonus gold for lasthitting it, but bonus "assist" gold for participating in the tower kill.

It effectively means split-pushing a tower down gives your team less overall gold than 5-man pushing it.

Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:07 Shaella wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:03 Comeh wrote:
On November 22 2013 07:58 Shaella wrote:
Finest
Stop.

just no

I mean, this patch is a lot more LoL-y than 6.78. I think he's on to something here...

Go play a game of LoL.
Come back, i can wait for you to admit just how painfully wrong you are.

Source - Supports actually do things in dota

In general, 6.79 is a lot more midgame focused, and a lot more 5-man focused, which is more LoL-y in the sense of having less focus on heroes with lopsided power curves and less split-push based play.

I think 6.78 was a very polarizing version because you either loved "rat dota" or you hated it. A large percentage of the player-base finds 5-man oriented DotA much more fun to watch and fun to play (regardless of how you feel about split-pushing, you do have to admit that it can lead to long farming phases which result in long lulls in the action which can bore inexperienced spectators).


Still, a move to 5-man Dota isn't a move to LoL-y-ness. It's a move to 5-man Dota.
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