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On November 22 2013 03:06 Sn0_Man wrote:The only problem with my 2 tp habit is sometimes I buy 2 TP's, run to lane, have big teamfight, run home, then unthinkingly buy 2 more tp's. Now how am I supposed to use 4 TP's?  (obviously at that point I just tp to lane because fuck it). Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:06 TheYango wrote:
The main problem with the "buy 2 TPs" rule is that it gets people in the habit of TPing from base to lane when in most cases you need to evaluate the likelihood that you need that TP in the next 65 seconds.
If you're a mid hero and you went home, and the enemy mid pushed lane into tower, your first instinct will be to TP so you don't miss that farm, but if he pushed lane into tower, it's likely that he's going to grab a rune and one of your sidelanes may be in danger in the next 30 seconds. If you blow that TP, then you increase the danger to then and lose out on a potential big counter-kill against the opposing mid. Maybe buying 2 tp's all the time enables bad decision making, but IMO thats just mid not thinking it through. Which happens all the time but I find it REALLY hard to believe that if he bought 1 tp he'd make a different decision.
Ok, I'm not a robot, I can count. If I have 2 TP, I don't buy more. They arnt warbonds.
Though I kind of want an Uncle Sam poster that says "support your team: buy a scroll of town portal & wards"
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On November 22 2013 03:10 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:06 Sn0_Man wrote:The only problem with my 2 tp habit is sometimes I buy 2 TP's, run to lane, have big teamfight, run home, then unthinkingly buy 2 more tp's. Now how am I supposed to use 4 TP's? (obviously at that point I just tp to lane because fuck it). On November 22 2013 03:06 TheYango wrote:
The main problem with the "buy 2 TPs" rule is that it gets people in the habit of TPing from base to lane when in most cases you need to evaluate the likelihood that you need that TP in the next 65 seconds.
If you're a mid hero and you went home, and the enemy mid pushed lane into tower, your first instinct will be to TP so you don't miss that farm, but if he pushed lane into tower, it's likely that he's going to grab a rune and one of your sidelanes may be in danger in the next 30 seconds. If you blow that TP, then you increase the danger to then and lose out on a potential big counter-kill against the opposing mid. Maybe buying 2 tp's all the time enables bad decision making, but IMO thats just mid not thinking it through. Which happens all the time but I find it REALLY hard to believe that if he bought 1 tp he'd make a different decision. Ok, I'm not a robot, I can count. If I have 2 TP, I don't buy more. They arnt warbonds. Though I kind of want an Uncle Sam poster that says "support your team: buy a scroll of town portal & wards"
They should have some random sales at random time in the game.
Something like "Flash Sale: TP is 30% off!!!!!!"
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the key is when you accidentally bought extra tps, just throw them on your carry for maximum #value
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The worst is when im a carry about to die from a gank and I'm trying to spend my unreliable gold (but forgot to put my next item in quickbuy), i'll just mash TP a few times to spend the money.
...And then i will check the courier and see 2 tp's on it already. 5 TPs on a carry seems a bit redundant.
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Russian Federation4050 Posts
You can never have too many tps.
Besides, you always want to have extra to block teammate's inventory when you do roshan.
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On November 22 2013 03:21 dfs wrote:
You can never have too many tps.
Besides, you always want to have extra to block teammate's inventory when you do roshan.
god i dont do this enough.
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yeah i just tried that on the sniper on my team the other day.... still fail T_T... I wish they make item click and drop instead of drag and drop, so much things could goes wrong while using this method with my current mouse setting. I always lose 5-6 seconds while others only lose 2-3
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On November 22 2013 03:14 Comeh wrote:
The worst is when im a carry about to die from a gank and I'm trying to spend my unreliable gold (but forgot to put my next item in quickbuy), i'll just mash TP a few times to spend the money.
...And then i will check the courier and see 2 tp's on it already. 5 TPs on a carry seems a bit redundant.
Your investing in the future. Buy TPs now, then you can afford those needed items later. Plus you get bonus gold from all those ganks and kill steals you can now do thanks to those extra TPs.
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On November 22 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:14 Comeh wrote:
The worst is when im a carry about to die from a gank and I'm trying to spend my unreliable gold (but forgot to put my next item in quickbuy), i'll just mash TP a few times to spend the money.
...And then i will check the courier and see 2 tp's on it already. 5 TPs on a carry seems a bit redundant. Your investing in the future. Buy TPs now, then you can afford those needed items later. Plus you get bonus gold from all those ganks and kill steals you can now do thanks to those extra TPs.
Investing in TPs is like investing in safe government bonds, while investing in a midas is a risky stock investment.
...that's of course not accurate at all but whatever.
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Midas = hedge funds. Only for the wealthy and sort of a bad idea, unless it totally makes you rich.
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im watching EE stream from last night with [A] playing in NEL
its the best thing ive ever seen
first game is EE, Bulba, S4, Demon, yugi vs EGM, Bulldog, Akke and two random NEL guys
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So basically what you are saying is that I should buy Sacred Relics since it's basically the safest investment?
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On November 22 2013 03:52 SilverStar wrote:
So basically what you are saying is that I should buy Sacred Relics since it's basically the safest investment?
Not really - when you try to sell your investment you take a 50% loss, and the only rate of return you get from them are dividends when you up your investment into a radiance.
(by the way i know very little about the stock market).
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On November 22 2013 03:52 SilverStar wrote:
So basically what you are saying is that I should buy Sacred Relics since it's basically the safest investment?
Any investment in dota should be measured on the scale of how much murder you can do with it. Drums: chasing down people for murder. Mana boots, always have fuel for murder. Manta, buddies to help you murder.
Now this is not a perfect system, because linkens does not really help you murder. It's bad at long term investments.
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On November 22 2013 00:51 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:36 Comeh wrote:On November 22 2013 00:35 Numy wrote:
Who expects mid to gank at level 3 wtf. Really really low level pubs. Theses are the same people who don't know how a smoke gank works. Last night someone said "it's useless, they can see you if you get close." So I solo smoke ganked mid.
When I played dota smoke didn't exist, so when I started to play dota 2 I thought smoke was a mass invisibility :D I followed a hero then I didn't understand how he could see me 
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So investing into dagon is like buying apple stocks in the 90s?
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On November 22 2013 04:23 zezamer wrote:
So investing into dagon is like buying apple stocks in the 90s?
The stock splits if you're nyx. But you need to keep investing.
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On November 22 2013 03:21 dfs wrote:
You can never have too many tps.
Besides, you always want to have extra to block teammate's inventory when you do roshan.
How does having multiple TPs help out here? I thought you could only move items as a unit - e.g. if you have 2 TPs (owned by same player), you can't drop just one, you have to drop both.
Or can you separately move them about? If so, that actually seems a pretty useful thing I don't know. Not necessarily for the Roshan, but moreso other things.
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you can not separate items, the russian was just clueless about what he was saying.
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On November 22 2013 04:19 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:51 Plansix wrote:On November 22 2013 00:36 Comeh wrote:On November 22 2013 00:35 Numy wrote:
Who expects mid to gank at level 3 wtf. Really really low level pubs. Theses are the same people who don't know how a smoke gank works. Last night someone said "it's useless, they can see you if you get close." So I solo smoke ganked mid. When I played dota smoke didn't exist, so when I started to play dota 2 I thought smoke was a mass invisibility :D I followed a hero then I didn't understand how he could see me
Happened to me too.
Smoke seemed so bloody imbalanced... Then i realised that it breaks (but didn't understand why)... :D
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