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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 20 2013 01:05 GMT
#87481
so the answer is no
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 01:07:57
November 20 2013 01:05 GMT
#87482
On November 20 2013 10:01 Targe wrote:
would an orchid not work as a pickup?


I think Arcane Boots, Urn and maybe Force Staff is sufficient for Kaolin. Even Blink is legit for more woDota moments. Although that doesn't help with the mana issue, but the first 3 does. Like I said previously though, Necro3 is pretty good. The buildup for it isn't bad at all, and easy to get.

You have to realize though that having mana issues doesn't mean you should pick up Orchid. Eul's is a better pickup almost always for heroes that do not synergize as well with an Orchid. Movement speed, cyclone active and mana regen are all good for the price.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
November 20 2013 01:06 GMT
#87483
I like the idea of euls/drums/phase for a zoom zoom build. Euls is great for buying a few seconds for his skills to come off cooldown, and because he's such a great chaser you can catch an enemy then clone them while waiting for your team to arrive.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 01:08:42
November 20 2013 01:08 GMT
#87484
On November 20 2013 10:05 Targe wrote:
so the answer is no

in my most humble opinion
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 01:10:15
November 20 2013 01:08 GMT
#87485
The hero really does't have mana issues that Bottle does't solve. Possibly another secondary Intel item (or Arcane Boots) at the absolute most if you're buying item actives that cost mana.

On November 20 2013 10:06 AndyJay wrote:
I like the idea of euls/drums/phase for a zoom zoom build. Euls is great for buying a few seconds for his skills to come off cooldown, and because he's such a great chaser you can catch an enemy then clone them while waiting for your team to arrive.

Again, anything works, the main point is that there's no item so core to him that you should pigeonhole yourself into buying it. Buy what your team needs because there's nothing that you personally need so badly that it outweighs what the team needs.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 20 2013 01:15 GMT
#87486
On November 20 2013 09:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:33 Comeh wrote:
On November 20 2013 09:12 TheYango wrote:
On November 20 2013 09:10 Targe wrote:
i would guess you want to go ganking orientated? so items that help with that would be good

The thing is, his combo doesn't require items and doesn't get enhanced that much by having more items anyway. At least not by enough to outweigh greater overall team benefit from team items.

itemwise, he seems similar to ET to how you'd want to build him.

Ehh, ET scales much better as a secondary damage point lategame than Kaolin thanks to Natural Order and the Ancestral Spirit bonus damage. There's at least some incentive to buy more autoattack-focused lategame items on ET than on Kaolin (e.g. BKB, AC).

I think BKB and AC are semi okay items for Kaolin (moreso BKB than AC).
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 20 2013 01:47 GMT
#87487
tidesoftime group won 3 rounds of diretide so far.... that net them 3k each person...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 20 2013 01:59 GMT
#87488
On November 20 2013 10:47 NB wrote:
tidesoftime group won 3 rounds of diretide so far.... that net them 3k each person...


How you know their prize at the end will be worth that much?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 20 2013 02:19 GMT
#87489
The price of golden rosh last year started at 1k so i assume this will do the same. Golden rosh right now worth way more than that although i have heard some talk about market crash after crafting got introduced. Either way they gona net themselves quite a chunk of money.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 02:30:42
November 20 2013 02:30 GMT
#87490
On November 20 2013 11:19 NB wrote:
The price of golden rosh last year started at 1k so i assume this will do the same. Golden rosh right now worth way more than that although i have heard some talk about market crash after crafting got introduced. Either way they gona net themselves quite a chunk of money.


Yeah most of the newer items were also put into the community market for trade now so it lowered every item's value by a lot.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 20 2013 02:47 GMT
#87491
On November 20 2013 11:30 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 11:19 NB wrote:
The price of golden rosh last year started at 1k so i assume this will do the same. Golden rosh right now worth way more than that although i have heard some talk about market crash after crafting got introduced. Either way they gona net themselves quite a chunk of money.


Yeah most of the newer items were also put into the community market for trade now so it lowered every item's value by a lot.

It will crash the price of items that can be crafted through the new system, but it will sky rocket the prices of items that cannot be, I think.
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 20 2013 03:15 GMT
#87492
is it alright to feel murderous hatred towards all furion pickers

usually i just get depressed when i lose but vs furion i see the red mist
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 20 2013 03:18 GMT
#87493
he speaks for the trees and guards the weed
how do u get mad at that
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 20 2013 03:19 GMT
#87494
what a hippie!
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 03:53:37
November 20 2013 03:53 GMT
#87495
On November 20 2013 12:15 Klonere wrote:
is it alright to feel murderous hatred towards all furion pickers

usually i just get depressed when i lose but vs furion i see the red mist


Just counter pick Slardar or SB, or bounty hunter if he is jungling. and you will stack kills like crazy. and just TP around and harass him when he shows up on lane. you will get more than enough kills to make up for the TPs you spend.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 20 2013 04:12 GMT
#87496
On November 20 2013 10:59 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 10:47 NB wrote:
tidesoftime group won 3 rounds of diretide so far.... that net them 3k each person...


How you know their prize at the end will be worth that much?

Probably 30k.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 05:22:54
November 20 2013 05:15 GMT
#87497
On November 20 2013 11:19 NB wrote:
The price of golden rosh last year started at 1k so i assume this will do the same. Golden rosh right now worth way more than that although i have heard some talk about market crash after crafting got introduced. Either way they gona net themselves quite a chunk of money.
Golden Rosh should if anything go up in value after the changes, while everything else goes down.

Because I don't believe the gold on the golden roshan is an added particle effect, it 'is the courier'. So while you can now mix and match other stuff, you can still never get any more golden roshans.

While Platinum roshans are a bit different. And of course they came out second, there are more cycles this year it seems as well, so they will never be as valuable as the OG.
Once you Goblak...
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
November 20 2013 08:15 GMT
#87498
On November 20 2013 12:15 Klonere wrote:
is it alright to feel murderous hatred towards all furion pickers

usually i just get depressed when i lose but vs furion i see the red mist

It's alright, I think everyone feels that.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
November 20 2013 08:21 GMT
#87499
On November 20 2013 17:15 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 12:15 Klonere wrote:
is it alright to feel murderous hatred towards all furion pickers

usually i just get depressed when i lose but vs furion i see the red mist

It's alright, I think everyone feels that.

I was actually thinking of becoming a Furion picker... Just to see what's so annoying about him.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 20 2013 08:23 GMT
#87500
let me guess, you're gonna mountain profit till midas -> shadowblade and not gank and just split push all game while your teammates go 4v5?

that's the annoying part
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