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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 19 2013 21:13 GMT
#87441
great canadian angus is where its at. fuck big macs so gross.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
November 19 2013 21:15 GMT
#87442
Had to double check that I clicked on the Dota GD thread and not something else. Go away with the geopolitical rabble!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 19 2013 21:18 GMT
#87443
On November 20 2013 04:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dota 2 quality of life in china general discussion thread


hmmm, came here expect some dota discussion, got economic lesson.

Guys, how is the coaching system? Ember going 2xBfury is correct or no?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 19 2013 21:22 GMT
#87444
The key problem with 2xBfury Ember is that its not 4xBfury ember.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 19 2013 21:26 GMT
#87445
battlefury is good for nubs like me who cant rng. lighting hammer is stupidly godly for ppl who can rng. holy lighting everywhere.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 19 2013 21:27 GMT
#87446
On November 20 2013 06:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
The key problem with 2xBfury Ember is that its not 4xBfury ember.

The only problem is that you have to sell your boots to go 6 battlefury.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
November 19 2013 21:29 GMT
#87447
On that note, why not bash on ember?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
November 19 2013 21:32 GMT
#87448
On November 20 2013 06:29 Sbrubbles wrote:
On that note, why not bash on ember?


Because bash has a cooldown and there's no point to praying to rnjesus to let you bash a hero and not a creep every time you SoF. Deso/Daedalus and Battlefuries are much better.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 21:40:42
November 19 2013 21:33 GMT
#87449
Why would you build bfurys on ember spirit? Ember has 2 swords. SnY is 2 swords. Obviously he should always get SnY.

Also, Ember is really UP.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 21:43:43
November 19 2013 21:43 GMT
#87450
^
Pretty much , why would you put huge amount of farm into a hero that doesnt do that much damage
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 21:48:05
November 19 2013 21:47 GMT
#87451
I feel like as long as shadowblade is abusable on ember, you should be building that.

Maybe i'm completely wrong, but the cuteness factor is something to reflect on.

You also have to consider the Gini Coefficient between Ember's 1 role and the 5 roles on the other team.

On November 20 2013 06:33 Kishin2 wrote:

Also, Ember is really UP.


Agreed.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 19 2013 22:08 GMT
#87452
I guess Ember is balanced around how good battlefury is on him.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 22:31:22
November 19 2013 22:29 GMT
#87453
On November 20 2013 03:04 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 02:52 Grettin wrote:
On November 20 2013 02:45 Plansix wrote:
On November 20 2013 02:39 Targe wrote:
what can 2k a month get you in china then? if it implies you're well off in comparison to the norm is that because the general standard of living is incredibly low or that the general necessities are more easily afforded?

I don't know what it can get you in china, but it isn't a lot in the US for anyone who wants to do more than rent an appartment and live off Raman. They are a new team and young guys, but as someone with a mortgage, that is shitty pay.

It's fine short term, but if in the long term players will move without more pay.


Difference is, they aren't paying for their accommodations nor food. I bet even you would be fine with 1000 USD a month if your mortgage or rent would be paid for you, not to mention your other normal day expenses.


I'm currently applying for 400 pound a month jobs with accomodation + food which is definitely much less than 1k USD a month

It's pretty good, food and accomodation take 100% of the salary of a lot of people.
350£ (if you pay internet+phone yourself) for just leisure is a lot more than most people have.

For Ember, someone made a damage analysis (vs mael, mjlnir, mael+deso) on reddit and 2 BF is strictly better than anything else damage wise (by far), after that a 3rd BF is often better.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 19 2013 22:34 GMT
#87454
On November 20 2013 06:47 Comeh wrote:
I feel like as long as shadowblade is abusable on ember, you should be building that.

Maybe i'm completely wrong, but the cuteness factor is something to reflect on.

You also have to consider the Gini Coefficient between Ember's 1 role and the 5 roles on the other team.

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:33 Kishin2 wrote:

Also, Ember is really UP.


Agreed.

on a bit more serious note, i just find it way too hard to get mana to use lorthar. Plus the new cd of lorthar is a turn off.

what do Counter strike and dota have in common beside Valve?
+ Show Spoiler +
You move faster with a dagger.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 19 2013 22:37 GMT
#87455
On November 20 2013 04:22 crms wrote:
can everyone stop flaming baggage pls, he's a-class irc stacker. I enjoy playing with baggage he's a fun guy and he's pretty good at dotes!

Baggage is a guy living in the UK with a Chinese Americn accent looool
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 22:51:14
November 19 2013 22:50 GMT
#87456
On November 20 2013 07:34 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:47 Comeh wrote:
I feel like as long as shadowblade is abusable on ember, you should be building that.

Maybe i'm completely wrong, but the cuteness factor is something to reflect on.

You also have to consider the Gini Coefficient between Ember's 1 role and the 5 roles on the other team.

On November 20 2013 06:33 Kishin2 wrote:

Also, Ember is really UP.


Agreed.

on a bit more serious note, i just find it way too hard to get mana to use lorthar. Plus the new cd of lorthar is a turn off.

what do Counter strike and dota have in common beside Valve?
+ Show Spoiler +
You move faster with a dagger.

Yeah, I mean that problem does arise. I feel like you need a casual bottle on this hero, kind of like a morphling [you can do the replicant trick too - tp back to base and come back with your ultimate after filling bottle / regening] (on top of a RoB). He's a bad hero IMO.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 19 2013 22:56 GMT
#87457
On November 20 2013 06:47 Comeh wrote:
I feel like as long as shadowblade is abusable on ember, you should be building that.


go max shield at lvl7 with Lothar (go radiance too), imagine that.
btw my adventure guide with xin is up too
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=196059356
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
November 19 2013 22:59 GMT
#87458
Yo guys, 3 bfury on Ember

Just think about that cleave
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 23:04:15
November 19 2013 23:02 GMT
#87459
On November 20 2013 07:56 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:47 Comeh wrote:
I feel like as long as shadowblade is abusable on ember, you should be building that.


go max shield at lvl7 with Lothar (go radiance too), imagine that.
btw my adventure guide with xin is up too
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=196059356

Damn, radiance plus his shield?

Now thats what I call a real build. Double radiance.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 19 2013 23:06 GMT
#87460
On November 20 2013 07:59 Yoshi- wrote:
Yo guys, 3 bfury on Ember

Just think about that cleave

Diretide confirms 3 bfury is good.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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