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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
April 23 2012 18:43 GMT
#8721
HUD?

what?

what HUD omg o_O
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
April 23 2012 18:43 GMT
#8722
i think my new dream is to go to valve
POGGERS
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
April 23 2012 18:45 GMT
#8723
All this talk is making me giddy
i wear a kitten scarf
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 23 2012 18:46 GMT
#8724
valve is just perfect, jesus.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 23 2012 18:46 GMT
#8725
i wouldnt be too suprised if the entire interface gona be changed. They gona need to implement store, personal inventory, market place etc... Game UI in TF2 is also fully customizable.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 18:47:25
April 23 2012 18:47 GMT
#8726
valve >>>>> riot >>>>>>>>> blizzard.

valve is a perfect company.

SingSing #1 like a boss!
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 23 2012 18:47 GMT
#8727
SINGSING!!!!!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 23 2012 18:47 GMT
#8728
sing_sing is the highest ranked dota2... me stream sniped him... OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#8729
Clearly we should all go MoM from now on ~
Moderator
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
April 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#8730
On April 24 2012 03:32 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 03:20 paper wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:03 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:26 Durak wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:04 crms wrote:
i wish morphling would stop attacking spectre in team fights first... he's basically killing his team with dispersion damage.

Dispersion is obviously a significant ability but it wasn't the reason they were losing fights. It only does the full 22% in a 300 radius, which is very small, and on 1500hp that's only 300dmg.

I think he was generally trying to get Enchantress first but Shadow Demon's disruption would force him to switch targets. The thing is, if he doesn't focus down Spectre then Spectre is going to deal a ton of damage. Spectre went vanguard, radiance, then diffusal so he had a lot of damage and only ~1500hp for the majority of the game. Morphling was trying to focus him down during the chain stuns of Beastmaster, Earthshaker, and Crystal Maiden so that they could then roll the fight but mTw played really well.



it's 22% of damage taken in a 1000AOE (closer more, further less) basically anyone in the immediate fight. Morphling was hitting like a truck so ~22% of morphlings damage not only hitting himself (his auto attack is 350 which is very close to the max 22% range) but all of his team is extremely significant. I'm not sure why you're calculating spectre's HP for the damage.


...because spectre can only disperse so much damage, i.e. a percentage of her max hp? rofl



I even checked playdota cause I couldn't remember full dispersion mechanics, they never mentioned it.

Notes
• Damage type: pure
• Reflected damage is not felt by Spectre, effectively reducing the incoming damage.
• Illusions will not benefit from this ability.
• Full damage is dealt in a 300 AoE around Spectre.
• The damage dealt decreases linearly from a 300 distance to a 1000 distance from Spectre.
• Will not disable Kelen's Dagger of Escape, Heart of Tarrasque and Tranquil Boots.




I can't tell if you still don't understand basic math or not, so I'll explain:

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 1000 damage.
Spectre instantly dies while dispersing 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP. No more, no less.

or

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 333.333.... damage.
Spectre dies in three hits while dispersing 73.333... damage three times, or 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP.
Hates Fun🤔
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#8731
singsing #1 on dota ladder ELO... haha opa opa! sing sing!!!!!!!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#8732
did tobi say anything about how fast is valve implementing new heroes?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 23 2012 18:50 GMT
#8733
On April 24 2012 03:48 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 03:32 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:20 paper wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:03 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:26 Durak wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:04 crms wrote:
i wish morphling would stop attacking spectre in team fights first... he's basically killing his team with dispersion damage.

Dispersion is obviously a significant ability but it wasn't the reason they were losing fights. It only does the full 22% in a 300 radius, which is very small, and on 1500hp that's only 300dmg.

I think he was generally trying to get Enchantress first but Shadow Demon's disruption would force him to switch targets. The thing is, if he doesn't focus down Spectre then Spectre is going to deal a ton of damage. Spectre went vanguard, radiance, then diffusal so he had a lot of damage and only ~1500hp for the majority of the game. Morphling was trying to focus him down during the chain stuns of Beastmaster, Earthshaker, and Crystal Maiden so that they could then roll the fight but mTw played really well.



it's 22% of damage taken in a 1000AOE (closer more, further less) basically anyone in the immediate fight. Morphling was hitting like a truck so ~22% of morphlings damage not only hitting himself (his auto attack is 350 which is very close to the max 22% range) but all of his team is extremely significant. I'm not sure why you're calculating spectre's HP for the damage.


...because spectre can only disperse so much damage, i.e. a percentage of her max hp? rofl



I even checked playdota cause I couldn't remember full dispersion mechanics, they never mentioned it.

Notes
• Damage type: pure
• Reflected damage is not felt by Spectre, effectively reducing the incoming damage.
• Illusions will not benefit from this ability.
• Full damage is dealt in a 300 AoE around Spectre.
• The damage dealt decreases linearly from a 300 distance to a 1000 distance from Spectre.
• Will not disable Kelen's Dagger of Escape, Heart of Tarrasque and Tranquil Boots.




I can't tell if you still don't understand basic math or not, so I'll explain:

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 1000 damage.
Spectre instantly dies while dispersing 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP. No more, no less.

or

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 333.333.... damage.
Spectre dies in three hits while dispersing 73.333... damage three times, or 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP.



I misread your first response, I understand.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
April 23 2012 18:51 GMT
#8734
On April 24 2012 03:48 Kznn wrote:
did tobi say anything about how fast is valve implementing new heroes?

At least 5 heroes should be left by the time The International 2 starts.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 23 2012 18:52 GMT
#8735
On April 24 2012 03:51 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 03:48 Kznn wrote:
did tobi say anything about how fast is valve implementing new heroes?

At least 5 heroes should be left by the time The International 2 starts.


do we have a date for the international?
and you mean 5 heroes left for us to have all heroes on the game?
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
April 23 2012 18:52 GMT
#8736
On April 24 2012 03:48 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 03:32 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:20 paper wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:03 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:26 Durak wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:04 crms wrote:
i wish morphling would stop attacking spectre in team fights first... he's basically killing his team with dispersion damage.

Dispersion is obviously a significant ability but it wasn't the reason they were losing fights. It only does the full 22% in a 300 radius, which is very small, and on 1500hp that's only 300dmg.

I think he was generally trying to get Enchantress first but Shadow Demon's disruption would force him to switch targets. The thing is, if he doesn't focus down Spectre then Spectre is going to deal a ton of damage. Spectre went vanguard, radiance, then diffusal so he had a lot of damage and only ~1500hp for the majority of the game. Morphling was trying to focus him down during the chain stuns of Beastmaster, Earthshaker, and Crystal Maiden so that they could then roll the fight but mTw played really well.



it's 22% of damage taken in a 1000AOE (closer more, further less) basically anyone in the immediate fight. Morphling was hitting like a truck so ~22% of morphlings damage not only hitting himself (his auto attack is 350 which is very close to the max 22% range) but all of his team is extremely significant. I'm not sure why you're calculating spectre's HP for the damage.


...because spectre can only disperse so much damage, i.e. a percentage of her max hp? rofl



I even checked playdota cause I couldn't remember full dispersion mechanics, they never mentioned it.

Notes
• Damage type: pure
• Reflected damage is not felt by Spectre, effectively reducing the incoming damage.
• Illusions will not benefit from this ability.
• Full damage is dealt in a 300 AoE around Spectre.
• The damage dealt decreases linearly from a 300 distance to a 1000 distance from Spectre.
• Will not disable Kelen's Dagger of Escape, Heart of Tarrasque and Tranquil Boots.




I can't tell if you still don't understand basic math or not, so I'll explain:

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 1000 damage.
Spectre instantly dies while dispersing 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP. No more, no less.

or

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 333.333.... damage.
Spectre dies in three hits while dispersing 73.333... damage three times, or 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP.



Going by playdota's description, I think you're wrong. Spectre doesn't take the damage that is reflected, so at level 4 dispersion, you take 78% of the incoming damage and 22% is dispersed. This means that you reflect in total 28%~ of your max hp in damage.
i wear a kitten scarf
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
April 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#8737
On April 24 2012 03:52 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 03:51 [17]Purple wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:48 Kznn wrote:
did tobi say anything about how fast is valve implementing new heroes?

At least 5 heroes should be left by the time The International 2 starts.


do we have a date for the international?
and you mean 5 heroes left for us to have all heroes on the game?


Tobi did say that there would be 5-10 heroes not yet in the pool by the International, date not yet confirmed however.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
April 23 2012 18:55 GMT
#8738
True, but my point still stands
Hates Fun🤔
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
April 23 2012 18:56 GMT
#8739
...signed by everyone in valve

holy
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
April 23 2012 18:58 GMT
#8740
On April 24 2012 03:56 konadora wrote:
...signed by everyone in valve

holy


he has Icefrog's signature?!??!?
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
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