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crms
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Ayush_SCtoss
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
On April 24 2012 02:04 crms wrote: i wish morphling would stop attacking spectre in team fights first... he's basically killing his team with dispersion damage. Dispersion is obviously a significant ability but it wasn't the reason they were losing fights. It only does the full 22% in a 300 radius, which is very small, and on 1500hp that's only 300dmg. I think he was generally trying to get Enchantress first but Shadow Demon's disruption would force him to switch targets. The thing is, if he doesn't focus down Spectre then Spectre is going to deal a ton of damage. Spectre went vanguard, radiance, then diffusal so he had a lot of damage and only ~1500hp for the majority of the game. Morphling was trying to focus him down during the chain stuns of Beastmaster, Earthshaker, and Crystal Maiden so that they could then roll the fight but mTw played really well. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
On April 24 2012 02:56 NB wrote: correct me if im wrong, the dmg from SB aura is applied AFTER the auto attack dmg landed isnt it? currently in dota2 they are the same thing? yep, but idk about dota 2 :o | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On April 24 2012 02:26 Durak wrote: Dispersion is obviously a significant ability but it wasn't the reason they were losing fights. It only does the full 22% in a 300 radius, which is very small, and on 1500hp that's only 300dmg. I think he was generally trying to get Enchantress first but Shadow Demon's disruption would force him to switch targets. The thing is, if he doesn't focus down Spectre then Spectre is going to deal a ton of damage. Spectre went vanguard, radiance, then diffusal so he had a lot of damage and only ~1500hp for the majority of the game. Morphling was trying to focus him down during the chain stuns of Beastmaster, Earthshaker, and Crystal Maiden so that they could then roll the fight but mTw played really well. it's 22% of damage taken in a 1000AOE (closer more, further less) basically anyone in the immediate fight. Morphling was hitting like a truck so ~22% of morphlings damage not only hitting himself (his auto attack is 350 which is very close to the max 22% range) but all of his team is extremely significant. I'm not sure why you're calculating spectre's HP for the damage. one of the first big team fights top in the late game morphling had his pick at targets and went straight onto spec thinking he could nuke him down, all that happened was dispersion raped him and his supports (especially the BM trying to melee) but mTw noticed and they just all redirected onto morph and gibbed him. I don't think this is the only reason they lost by any means but it was still bad decision making. the morph was very farmed and should have ate through supports/anything but spectre, he certainly out dps the spectre and should have done more in team fights. Everytime it was him right clicking spec, dispersion going buckwild and mTw losing 1 hero at most while next got wiped. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Imagine it. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
On April 24 2012 03:05 Unleashing wrote: I'm thinking tobi was visiting valve to voice one of the heads for ogra magi. Imagine it. or valve modelling tobi to be used as a tide skin or something | ||
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
PHILtheTANK? | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
not bad | ||
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paper
13197 Posts
On April 24 2012 03:03 crms wrote: it's 22% of damage taken in a 1000AOE (closer more, further less) basically anyone in the immediate fight. Morphling was hitting like a truck so ~22% of morphlings damage not only hitting himself (his auto attack is 350 which is very close to the max 22% range) but all of his team is extremely significant. I'm not sure why you're calculating spectre's HP for the damage. ...because spectre can only disperse so much damage, i.e. a percentage of her max hp? rofl | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
:/ | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
Tobi talking about International 2!! yesssssss! | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On April 24 2012 03:20 paper wrote: ...because spectre can only disperse so much damage, i.e. a percentage of her max hp? rofl I even checked playdota cause I couldn't remember full dispersion mechanics, they never mentioned it.  Notes • Damage type: pure • Reflected damage is not felt by Spectre, effectively reducing the incoming damage. • Illusions will not benefit from this ability. • Full damage is dealt in a 300 AoE around Spectre. • The damage dealt decreases linearly from a 300 distance to a 1000 distance from Spectre. • Will not disable Kelen's Dagger of Escape, Heart of Tarrasque and Tranquil Boots. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
holy cow and that was just last year >_> | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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konadora
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
EDIT: LOL TOBI <3 NEW HUD COMING WHOOOOOOO | ||
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