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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
On November 19 2013 13:49 Darkren wrote: gem and crafting seem weird i also have an item that i have equipped on a hero but it isnt in my inventory Also crafting with scrools has not worked since ever or is it just me? Edit: i also just discovered that on the portrait of every hero ingame there is a small white dude at the botom left of the square if u click on him u get free 3D view of your hero, Try it its very impressive I used other kind of item with new gems like Blade Dance Crits on Diretide. Stats are counted. Scrolls kinda stupid atm, where you can only choose your first page item during crafting. Selecting the 2nd page or afterwards just make the crafting item turns gray box. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4558 Posts
On November 19 2013 16:26 Grettin wrote: I think this is pretty interesting. CEO(?) of Speed Gaming released their contracts to the public on SpeedGaming's facebook. For me, this is the first time i've seen someone do so. I bet there is other information as interesting as above. all the contracts can be found on their facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SpeedGamingTV/posts/481094865337498 Also article by Cyborgmatt about this with all the info: http://www.ongamers.com/articles/speed-gaming-reveals-their-player-s-contracts-in-an-effort-to-improve-transparency-within-esports/1100-150/ Very nice to see this kind of information so we can have a better view of the "progamer life". That base salary is really low imo. 1000 dollars or roughly 740 euros a month, damn. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10963 Posts
On November 19 2013 19:10 Laurens wrote: Very nice to see this kind of information so we can have a better view of the "progamer life". That base salary is really low imo. 1000 dollars or roughly 740 euros a month, damn. If you know some other salaries of sc2 pros thats actually pretty nice... | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
If they are getting a base $1k/month (and if Nexon counts they might be looking at $2k/month soon) while being provided free room and board and retaining the majority of their tournament earnings I think they've landed in a pretty nice deal as far as esports goes. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4558 Posts
On November 19 2013 19:27 BlitzerSC wrote: 1000 dollars for playing video games is not low at all. Footballers get paid millions a month for playing football? Stupid comparison for sure, but a job is a job, and that salary is low. It doesn't matter that they just sit in their chair playing games all day, office workers also sit in a chair facing a pc all day. To be honest, I'm not sure if playing dota 8 hours a day for 6 days a week would even be fun? You have to keep in mind that a lot of gamers did not complete their education to get into gaming, and have not much to fall back on once their gaming career is over. I dunno, looking at these contracts kinda explained the "win TI or get screwed" attitude. Loda mentioned in his blog that it is still "fucking hard to make a living out of Dota 2" and if you look at these numbers it's pretty obvious why. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10963 Posts
On November 19 2013 19:43 Laurens wrote: Footballers get paid millions a month for playing football? Stupid comparison for sure, but a job is a job, and that salary is low. It doesn't matter that they just sit in their chair playing games all day, office workers also sit in a chair facing a pc all day. To be honest, I'm not sure if playing dota 8 hours a day for 6 days a week would even be fun? You have to keep in mind that a lot of gamers did not complete their education to get into gaming, and have not much to fall back on once their gaming career is over. I dunno, looking at these contracts kinda explained the "win TI or get screwed" attitude. Loda mentioned in his blog that it is still "fucking hard to make a living out of Dota 2" and if you look at these numbers it's pretty obvious why. You might also want to take into account, that there are many "classic" sports where it is also damn hard to make a living out of them (or downright impossible), that goes even for some olympic sports.. | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On November 19 2013 19:54 BurningSera wrote: And if you converted that money to RMB to live in China (which they will do that next year?), not bad at all. Definitely not bad at all, if you look at the average salary in China. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On November 19 2013 19:49 Velr wrote: You might also want to take into account, that there are many "classic" sports where it is also damn hard to make a living out of them (or downright impossible), that goes even for some olympic sports.. The payoff is massive once you reach the top though, enough money to last you literally for lifetimes if you don't squander it all away. In professional gaming, woopty doo I won 1 million dollars split 5 ways, not to mention taxes from the U.S. Government or my own national government, etc. And realize you have to bust your ass and literally be the BEST team in the world. To make it in other sports, you just have to be in the top 50-top 100. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10963 Posts
On November 19 2013 21:15 superstartran wrote: The payoff is massive once you reach the top though, enough money to last you literally for lifetimes if you don't squander it all away. In professional gaming, woopty doo I won 1 million dollars split 5 ways, not to mention taxes from the U.S. Government or my own national government, etc. And realize you have to bust your ass and literally be the BEST team in the world. To make it in other sports, you just have to be in the top 50-top 100. Uhm... No? Just think about all this "fringe" sports that no one cares about when there are no olympic games held... Next to no one can even afford to do them full time, let alone witheout goverment aid... | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
They do get bad conditions if they win TI4, but on the bright side they can very quickly renegotiate. Plus they're made men should they win TI4. I can't imagine a TI winner not having good position to get favorable contracts with every organiztaion right afterwards. Until then salary is nice. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On November 19 2013 21:13 Alpino wrote: Any person doing their job should get more than this. At least in Brazil you won't be able to afford your living expenses with this kind of salary. They won't have to pay any living expenses. Their food and accommodation is paid for by the team once they go to China (there was talk of a stipend in the meantime but I don't think it's officially mentioned anywhere?) and they'll get the salary on top of that. On November 19 2013 21:33 Mataza wrote: I find it interesting that the contract is renewed every 6-8 months.. I might be way off base here but I feel that's probably fairly standard. Teams are volatile, the game can be volatile, and almost nobody is a one org for life guy in esports. Shorter contract durations just reflect the nature of the scene for the time being. Perhaps you get longer contracts signed by the Chinese players, but they have proper infrastructure and procedures for trading players between teams and buying out contracts etc afaik. | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
I mean sure, it's not a huge amount by comparison to major sports, but that's a bit much to expect. When I was unemployed and studying at University I got $250 AUD a fortnight (so approx. $500 a month) from the Government and did "alright" for myself. | ||
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