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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 18 2013 16:21 GMT
#87301
AA's a hero I have issues enjoying in pubs. It's just so hard to have a game where AA did something that another support wouldn't have done 3x better.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
November 18 2013 16:23 GMT
#87302
On November 19 2013 00:45 unkkz wrote:
Omni is soul killingly boring, and I also hate slardar.

Omni is just very ... relaxing ... you farm your rad/sny/skadi/mkb and then you end the game.

Very relaxing hero to play.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 18 2013 16:24 GMT
#87303
On November 19 2013 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
AA's a hero I have issues enjoying in pubs. It's just so hard to have a game where AA did something that another support wouldn't have done 3x better.

Agreed by a lot.

I actually kind of hate that hero.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 18 2013 16:28 GMT
#87304
Only heroes i repick are ones that take effort to play. Tinker, meepo , chen, if I had 400 apm i'd play BW.

Also all heroes cited so far are super fun to play
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 16:31:14
November 18 2013 16:29 GMT
#87305
I wonder how good solomid atos rush AA is these days. That might be an actual way to play the hero (not sure).

The problem is that you are still useless pre-atos barring some ults for gank purposes, but atos is like 3100 gold (way more than blink), but its not insanely good like blink is. Plus BKB etc. Plus it delays your Aghs which is I think the real draw to AA these days. .

The issue with Omni is that EVERYTHING is always your fault lol.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
November 18 2013 16:30 GMT
#87306
On November 19 2013 01:28 Qbek wrote:
Only heroes i repick are ones that take effort to play. Tinker, meepo , chen, if I had 400 apm i'd play BW.

Also all heroes cited so far are super fun to play

Tinker isn't bad - you just have to get into a certain rythm. If you're unsure how to lane him/not having success with it, then you can just ancient stack and shit. Sure it's not the most efficient, but you can do it.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 18 2013 16:40 GMT
#87307
On November 19 2013 01:30 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:28 Qbek wrote:
Only heroes i repick are ones that take effort to play. Tinker, meepo , chen, if I had 400 apm i'd play BW.

Also all heroes cited so far are super fun to play

Tinker isn't bad - you just have to get into a certain rythm. If you're unsure how to lane him/not having success with it, then you can just ancient stack and shit. Sure it's not the most efficient, but you can do it.

He's one of the harder heroes to play in lategame teamfight situations.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 18 2013 16:45 GMT
#87308
On November 19 2013 01:28 Qbek wrote:
if I had 400 apm i'd play BW.

^^
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 18 2013 16:52 GMT
#87309
aa support is just fine provided your teammates are not awful.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 17:07:27
November 18 2013 17:06 GMT
#87310
He's also quite good mid in this version. Certainly better than in 6.78.

On November 19 2013 01:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
I wonder how good solomid atos rush AA is these days. That might be an actual way to play the hero (not sure).

The problem is that you are still useless pre-atos barring some ults for gank purposes, but atos is like 3100 gold (way more than blink), but its not insanely good like blink is. Plus BKB etc. Plus it delays your Aghs which is I think the real draw to AA these days. .

The issue with Omni is that EVERYTHING is always your fault lol.

If you're not rushing Agha, Mek or Force Staff should be priorities.

The hero isn't a gank hero. He's a teamfight hero, so it makes most sense to buy teamfight items.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 18 2013 17:17 GMT
#87311
Running a teamfight hero who lacks gank/push/splitpush applications solo mid seems really weak these days. It is too hard to force teamfights with that kind of hero mid (since often the best way to force a teamfight is to gank or push).

Yes yes atos is bad i was just thinking out loud. I came to the conclusion it was bad myself

Running a support who can't roam effectively is also unfortunate (I mean, I guess AA can gank a lane that already has a reliable stun but... who can't?). You have to roam with a setup buddy and at that point you are already kinda past pub reasonability as well as being strictly worse than something like a lesh for what you are doing. Supports can't just sit in lane and zone/pull like 6.78 so you can't run something quite so useless at ganking (and level dependant) like AA. I guess in a dual lane situation with a partner like clock you could make it happen but... ewwww that seems bad again.

Heroes that do fucknothing by themselves at all stages of the game just aren't fun for me.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 18 2013 17:51 GMT
#87312
Hence my distaste for Omniknight.

On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 18 2013 18:38 GMT
#87313
I think I have to agree with the sentiment that Earth Spirit is one of the harder heroes to play well. He's fun and clowny though.

Ember...has an atrociously bad last hitting animation for a melee.

I dislike playing Ancient Apparition as well but I find Omniknight fun.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 18 2013 18:41 GMT
#87314
I find myself wondering if it's even worth keeping EG.Dota 2 around at this point. It's not just the lack of results, it's also the constant DDoS issues that mean they never get to play.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#87315
While it sucks, being a victim of DDOS attacks should never be a factor of a team being let go or dropped.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
November 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#87316
It's a sign of popularity so that's good at least.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
November 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#87317
"We had to let our EG dota team go today because of a lot of DDoS attacks lately against them"..yeh, that makes sense
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
November 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#87318
On November 19 2013 03:48 TheEmulator wrote:
It's a sign of popularity so that's good at least.
Except it's deMuslim being ddosed.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
November 18 2013 18:50 GMT
#87319
On November 19 2013 03:41 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I find myself wondering if it's even worth keeping EG.Dota 2 around at this point. It's not just the lack of results, it's also the constant DDoS issues that mean they never get to play.


Isn't it more of the team managements fault if they can't set up a proper proxy to secure their players from these attacks? Getting rid of their Dota 2 team would be ridiculous, if EG want's presence in the scene anyway.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 18 2013 18:52 GMT
#87320
It's happened to me multiple games but has anyone else noticed issues in regards to the creep AI? Like it would stand in the middle of the lane not doing anything, patrol back and forth.

I had some issues with fog as well, where the FOW wouldn't appear. I was downhill the river and the fog in the opposing teams uphill wouldn't be there but the units would unveil if I walk uphill like normal, it's disorienting.

The projectile bug is bad.
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