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On November 15 2013 20:35 RuskiPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 20:22 BlitzerSC wrote:On November 15 2013 20:06 RuskiPanda wrote:On November 15 2013 20:02 BlitzerSC wrote:On November 15 2013 19:59 nojok wrote:
You say fight early and go battlefury first. This is nonsense. lol nope. I find Battlefury to be the perfect item for Xin. For what it costs, it gives you quite a lot of mana regen, damage and the cleave has good synergy with your Sleight of Fist. People need to open their minds and stop thinking of Battlefury as farm only item. Except it is a farm only item? If you wanted good combat stats there are a horde of cost efficient damage items you could get before you need to consider bfury. Except its not a farm only item ? Battlefur doesn't only give you cleave, stop ignoring the other bonuses of it Yeah dude, that hp/mana regen is really gonna come in handy when they just stun you and blow you up because you're fighting early with a battlefury ROFL.
BF turns slight of hand into another AOE, which massively increases his damage out but. Also, like SS, ES can be hard to lock down in the hands of a good player. With the low cool down on slight of hand, any item that has an on hit effect has potential on him.
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On November 15 2013 20:43 BlitzerSC wrote:
Oh so according to you every fucking item in the game is useless because if you get stunned you die. Nice logic.
Use your fuking brain, Ember Spirit has the perfect skill set to avoid stuns, get out from sticky situations and kill the opponents before they can even touch you.
But why am I even trying to tell you this stuff ? If you get stunned you just die, right ? ROFL ROFL ROFL...
Here's a crazy idea, if you're saying that Xin should fight early then maybe you should.. I dunno build something like drums that not only gives you health but also solves most of your mana issues. I don't really get this magical scenario where you're running around and ganking people with probably boots and maaaybe a perseverance.
And yeah, there's a reason that most hard carries build BKB- because most of the time when you get disabled you DO die so think of that before you drag your argument through the mud.
If you're playing him as a farming 1 core then go ahead and build it but you're not gonna get the best of both worlds if you think you're gonna successfully fight early with bfury parts.
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No need to get angry guys lol
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lol why does storm build orchid first, he'll just get stunned and die
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On November 15 2013 21:03 RockIronrod wrote:
lol why does storm build orchid first, he'll just get stunned and die
Who me?
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On November 15 2013 21:03 RockIronrod wrote:
lol why does storm build orchid first, he'll just get stunned and die
Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing, buddy. Because an item that lets you solo kill underleveled heroes and snowball mid (which is one of the main points of the #2 role) is totally comparable to battlefury whose purpose is to accelerate your 2-3 big item timing.
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Gj RuskiPanda, you managed to ignore all my posts just so you could prove your wrong point.
There's no reason in arguing with you because you clearly don't want to understand.
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On November 15 2013 20:06 RuskiPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 20:02 BlitzerSC wrote:On November 15 2013 19:59 nojok wrote:
You say fight early and go battlefury first. This is nonsense. lol nope. I find Battlefury to be the perfect item for Xin. For what it costs, it gives you quite a lot of mana regen, damage and the cleave has good synergy with your Sleight of Fist. People need to open their minds and stop thinking of Battlefury as farm only item. Except it is a farm only item? If you wanted good combat stats there are a horde of cost efficient damage items you could get before you need to consider bfury.
Battlefury makes Sleigh of Fists about a billion times better. I'm usually with the whole "unless you're gonna farm don't get BFury", but Ember seems to be the exception.
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It's a billion times better if they all stand next to each other sure, but unless you have a Magnus or Dark Seer who sets that up for you it's easier to play around than chain frost.
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a person named RuskiPanda makes "interesting" comments about dota. Made me grin.
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lgd + tongfu stack doing diretide roshan to level 30+
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On November 15 2013 21:05 RuskiPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 21:03 RockIronrod wrote:
lol why does storm build orchid first, he'll just get stunned and die
Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing, buddy. Because an item that lets you solo kill underleveled heroes and snowball mid (which is one of the main points of the #2 role) is totally comparable to battlefury whose purpose is to accelerate your 2-3 big item timing.
I'm just saying that if your argument is that if they're susceptible to stuns, their item build is useless, you have a dumb argument.
Bottle - phase - drums - battlefury is an extremely strong build. Xin has good solo kill potential with absolutely no items, bottle/drums covers his early mana, and battlefury gives him crazy team fight ability for when they inevitably 5 man to stop you from slaughtering them.
If someone stands away from their team they get chained and BDSM fucked, if they're even remotely close to their team everyone dies.
And yes, it does give farming ability for when there's down time between fights.
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On November 15 2013 21:06 BlitzerSC wrote:
Gj RuskiPanda, you managed to ignore all my posts just so you could prove your wrong point.
There's no reason in arguing with you because you clearly don't want to understand.
I don't want to understand that according to you Battlefury is a fighting item? Your whole premise is that "farming is probably one of the worst things you could do with Xin." What I got from the rest of your posts is a vague claim that battlefury has stats other than cleave but health/mana regen are both also farming stats while flat damage can be obtained elsewhere much more cost effectively. The rest of your "argument" is just insulting my intelligence and saying that because he's slippery it's ok to build him as a glass cannon. Antimage is also nearly as slippery but you don't generally see him joining fights until he has at least manta unless his team really needs it.
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You people are saying he is missing your point but then go ahead and completely miss his point by doing some silly isolation of the word stun. Grow up. Both of you have valid points. The truth isn't also so easy that it is black and white.
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Items do different things for different heroes
In other news water is wet and singsing has the worst chat on twitch.
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On November 15 2013 21:17 idonthinksobro wrote:
a person named RuskiPanda makes "interesting" comments about dota. Made me grin.
I'm really tired of Russian hate on TL, Could you stop please?
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So.
Do we have a build for Ember Spirit yet lol
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On November 15 2013 21:28 Numy wrote:
You people are saying he is missing your point but then go ahead and completely miss his point by doing some silly isolation of the word stun. Grow up. Both of you have valid points. The truth isn't also so easy that it is black and white.
In the internet the other guy is always talking in black or white (says so on the manual)
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On November 15 2013 21:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
So.
Do we have a build for Ember Spirit yet lol
Thunderhammer.
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On November 15 2013 21:58 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 21:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
So.
Do we have a build for Ember Spirit yet lol Thunderhammer.
I saw MSS go Maelstrom once and thought it was pretty good, but I was mixed between that and battlefury and deso and just hard damage items to spam with your Sleight of Hanf
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