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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:11 Laserist wrote: I advise to practice last hitting with 1v5 unfair bots while picking SF with no damage items and no points in necro. I'd argue that this just acclimates you to lasthitting with the lowest possible damage, when you pretty much always want to lasthit at the highest possible damage, not the lowest. | ||
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crimsonSoldier
147 Posts
On November 13 2013 18:46 Firebolt145 wrote: Play 1v1 solo mid against unfair Sniper bot. So many heroes can rape unfair Sniper bot. E.G. viper, QOP, Necrolyte, Drow etc. The problem is that if you do not use these heroes, then unfair sniper bot dominates you not by last-hitting, but through headshot. But the general idea of playing against unfair bots to improve lane control/dominance is good. One can learn how to control creep equilibrium, hero positioning, line-of-sight, last-hitting etc. For specific last-hitting practice, unfair viper is a good challenge. With adequate positioning, it's possible to stay out of his 500 range and focus on last-hitting practice (because viper has a huge advantage with nether-toxin). | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Just Sniper bot. Seriously that thing is just brutal. With the instant hit attack and the headshot damage to chase you off the wave good luck getting LHs or denies. Especially as a melee hero and/or with low base damage. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On November 13 2013 20:11 crimsonSoldier wrote: So many heroes can rape unfair Sniper bot. E.G. viper, QOP, Necrolyte, Drow etc. The problem is that if you do not use these heroes, then unfair sniper bot dominates you not by last-hitting, but through headshot. Obviously if you pick heroes that can completely outlane by killing the Sniper bot then sure it's easy, but if we're simply practising last hits, then he's pretty good for it. | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On November 13 2013 22:43 ReignSupreme. wrote: What's up with the colours of post's for the first 3599 pages in this thread? It's TL's new way of showing it's an 'old post'. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On November 13 2013 22:45 Firebolt145 wrote: It's TL's new way of showing it's an 'old post'. as in 2 months or as in pre updated tl? | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
Means they're old | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
On November 13 2013 22:56 Grettin wrote: Sigma.int will be the 9th team for MLG Columbus. Seems like a decent replacement for Dignitas. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On November 13 2013 22:39 Firebolt145 wrote: Obviously if you pick heroes that can completely outlane by killing the Sniper bot then sure it's easy, but if we're simply practising last hits, then he's pretty good for it. Valve should release Achievements for stuffs like that. They can even do it for every hero. I'd consider cm out-cs a unfair sniper bot as a life time achievement lol. On topic, I don't think anyone needs much last hitting practice, for example as a safelane carry, one just needs to put 90% concentration on last hitting for first 6-8mins and then you shouldn't have problem to last hit after that. Just grab a replay of freefarming Burning/Black playing AM as a reference and practice a few games with what you watched. | ||
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10962 Posts
And many, many, many people just don't do this at all... I actually think to train alone, whiteout any opponent at first helps you more than against some überbot. | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
On November 13 2013 23:31 Velr wrote: Lasthitting decent = creepstalling when possible. And many, many, many people just don't do this at all... I actually think to train alone, whiteout any opponent at first helps you more than against some überbot. except in pubs some fucking support will "help" by single-pulling and then suddenly there's two ranged creeps and you want to go kill yourself | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On November 13 2013 23:31 Velr wrote: Lasthitting decent = creepstalling when possible. And many, many, many people just don't do this at all... I actually think to train alone, whiteout any opponent at first helps you more than against some überbot. Ya, lane control/maintaining lane equilibrium is critical in a carry player, which is why i mentioned burning/black's replays. But i think when people say they want to practice last hitting they are onto the more basic stuffs. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10962 Posts
On November 13 2013 23:34 beef42 wrote: except in pubs some fucking support will "help" by single-pulling and then suddenly there's two ranged creeps and you want to go kill yourself Or the guy just starts autoattacking the enemy Cata while your own is still at 100% :D. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On November 13 2013 20:11 Heyoka wrote: I did the SF exercise for a while and found it helpful though I know a lot of people make the (probably correct) point that it messes you up a little because you're adjusting to a bizarro world that never happens. I think most people, though, are hitting too early and not too late so getting a lot of practice to adjust yourself down some is fairly helpful for anyone looking to actively improve that skill. One of the issues I have with the SF exercise is that it gets you used to last hitting...with SF. Every heroes feels a bit different, and the thing that messes me up with SF is the fact that he has next to no turn rate, and underestimating turn rates is one of the main reasons I miss last hits (especially since i have auto attack off) I consider myself really good at last hitting in FF conditions, but that kind of practice doesn't help at all when 1v1ing mid. | ||
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