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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#83081
Update 3
- Fixed Level 4 Sprint duration being slightly too low
- Fixed clients visual FoW not being updated properly with Darkness
- Fixed Brewmaster Primal Split units and Call of the Wild Legacy Keys
- Fixed multi target style attacks lifestealing from each hit under Vampiric Aura
- Reverted Flying Dragons change for now


no more flying drag, resume medusa jungling activities
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 18 2013 18:53 GMT
#83082
On October 19 2013 03:45 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
Update 3
- Fixed Level 4 Sprint duration being slightly too low
- Fixed clients visual FoW not being updated properly with Darkness
- Fixed Brewmaster Primal Split units and Call of the Wild Legacy Keys
- Fixed multi target style attacks lifestealing from each hit under Vampiric Aura
- Reverted Flying Dragons change for now


no more flying drag, resume medusa jungling activities

that pull on radiant midlane would have been ridiculous
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
October 18 2013 19:00 GMT
#83083
Wtb Dota 2 network.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 18 2013 19:01 GMT
#83084
Wonder if its coming back up with the patch that'd be big. Hope not tho simply so MLG can do their event properly LOL (imagine if 6.79's first games were with 0 practice at the MLG LAN).
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 18 2013 19:02 GMT
#83085
Ice Fraud why? I want to play dota. This had better lead to halloween event arriving today.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
October 18 2013 19:06 GMT
#83086
Well the Halloween event should be starting soon right? When did it start last year?
Administrator
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
October 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#83087
dota is back for me.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 18 2013 19:16 GMT
#83088
Dota 2 network is derping so hard.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 18 2013 19:22 GMT
#83089
On October 19 2013 04:06 TheEmulator wrote:
Well the Halloween event should be starting soon right? When did it start last year?

The day of Halloween if i recall corectly
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
October 18 2013 19:23 GMT
#83090
oh really? I can't remember when the event started, but didn't we get the Halloween themed terrain before Halloween?
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 18 2013 19:24 GMT
#83091
I wonder if enough people are curious about 6.79 to make playing the test client actually worthwhile.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 19:32:55
October 18 2013 19:25 GMT
#83092
On October 19 2013 02:09 -Celestial- wrote:
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On October 19 2013 01:52 nojok wrote:
On October 19 2013 00:51 Gentso wrote:
CS'ing on a hard carry in pubs really comes down to team mates more than anything, imo. They need to prevent the harass, ward, make space, be the right team comp, etc. I get frustrated a lot trying to CS in weird pub games where we don't run standard tri lane / off lane comps.

I almost consider it's bm to pick a hard carry which requires your whole team to be your bitch. Besides there are tons of builds which allows some heroes to not be deadweight for 30+ minutes, like mana boots dagger tiny, phase drum spectre with max desolate is ridiculously strong when she hits level 7/8 etc etc, in fact outside of PL, void and AM I feel other heroes can really play their game without being the main focus of their own team.


To be honest even Void and AM can contribute at little at least. AM's ult is really good and Void has quite a good skillset even early on. They won't carry teamfights but they can definitely help.

PL is a special case I feel because he NEEDS attack speed to be able to get his illusions up.


Am has mana steal tho, i fell this is really strong

A hero with a low mana pool (jugg) or one that needs a a full pool (lina) to be effective are a pain to face vs am.

Ive actually found out that if u are confidently sure that a melee hero is going mid, u should put am vs him and have strong hardlanes and safelanes. U limit your gank possibility unless am gets a haste, but u also totaly shut down their mid, a bit like od does, they are counter to this like et, but the ability to mana break lets you control their manapool, and the blinks lets you exert rune control aswell as escaping ganks. As a bonus bottle really helps with mana problems and health problems am has, since if you have good awareness u can blink away sip a bit and escape or be ham like me and dive towers using fog in trees for healing and tangoing out to kill them ( and normally u have blink off cd when you tango out and can chase) so their not expecting u to be so ham.

"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
October 18 2013 19:37 GMT
#83093
Then the melee you're laning against turns out to be nightstalker and you cry salty tears of anti-fun.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 18 2013 19:44 GMT
#83094
On October 19 2013 04:37 RuskiPanda wrote:
Then the melee you're laning against turns out to be nightstalker and you cry salty tears of anti-fun.


Lol max spell shield and hope for the best!

PMS is going to be a key item too.

He's right though. AM is good mid-laner against usual melee-mids, but risky.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 19:47:24
October 18 2013 19:45 GMT
#83095
On October 19 2013 04:37 RuskiPanda wrote:
Then the melee you're laning against turns out to be nightstalker and you cry salty tears of anti-fun.


How he gonna kill you lv 5 (about when first night hits) when he either has no mana or no farm, in the no farm option u can survive one nuke and silence and blink away after , in the no mana option (were he has farmed but has no mana) he must get to base and tp to gank, not to mention that if he just charges u blindly u can charge at him at suck out the mana before he can cast 2 spells.

He has like a 300 manapool early game 2-3 swipes and its basically gone

After that he becomes a nightstalker problem, but u would have had the same problem if u were safelane and he came to gank u( u would just have alot less lv)
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 18 2013 19:45 GMT
#83096
On October 19 2013 04:44 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:37 RuskiPanda wrote:
Then the melee you're laning against turns out to be nightstalker and you cry salty tears of anti-fun.


Lol max spell shield and hope for the best!

PMS is going to be a key item too.

He's right though. AM is good mid-laner against usual melee-mids, but risky.

After the first point in spell shield, stats are more EHP vs NS than more spellshield for a long time I think.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 18 2013 19:48 GMT
#83097
On October 19 2013 04:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:44 trinxified wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:37 RuskiPanda wrote:
Then the melee you're laning against turns out to be nightstalker and you cry salty tears of anti-fun.


Lol max spell shield and hope for the best!

PMS is going to be a key item too.

He's right though. AM is good mid-laner against usual melee-mids, but risky.

After the first point in spell shield, stats are more EHP vs NS than more spellshield for a long time I think.

Depends on supports.

But yeah, usually you want some points in stats.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 18 2013 19:49 GMT
#83098
On October 19 2013 04:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:44 trinxified wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:37 RuskiPanda wrote:
Then the melee you're laning against turns out to be nightstalker and you cry salty tears of anti-fun.


Lol max spell shield and hope for the best!

PMS is going to be a key item too.

He's right though. AM is good mid-laner against usual melee-mids, but risky.

After the first point in spell shield, stats are more EHP vs NS than more spellshield for a long time I think.


Yeah I know, I was kidding on that point lol. I do prefer stats over more levels of Spell Shield in most cases unless it's a really heavy nuke lineup.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 18 2013 20:13 GMT
#83099
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 18 2013 21:13 GMT
#83100
15k of useless items to make a racecar bs kill a Lina.
>New meta


i dont really understand what the hype is about in a real game you're never going to get that farmed without losing the game or winning cuz they were bad enough to let you get away with a bunch of bad items
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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