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Animzor
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On October 15 2013 01:12 trinxified wrote: Why get Battlefury on Void when you can get Maelstorm. Synerges much better with Void needing attack speed, gives you farming, and will actually hit everyone in the chrono when it procs, compared to cleave where it has to be good angles... BF is a better farming item, still gives really solid damage, gives regen so you theoretically you don't need lifesteal for farming purposes, lets you clear ancients if the game is paced slow enough, costs less than a mjollnir, maelstrom only gives 25 AS. I like maelstrom if you are able to get a midas, BF if the game is slower / farming paced, MoM if fighting like crazy / need to solo kill your 1v1 lane while your supports are roaming. Over generalizing but whatever. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
Void with treads, PMS, stick, midas/MoM/maelstrom with chrono up can fight fine in the midgame. Backtrack exists so you can survive. Why do you need to split push with those items? | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13090 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 15 2013 01:37 Kishin2 wrote: You can get a maelstrom + midas/MoM for the cost of a battlefury. Or a midas + ogre axe + mithril hammer for it. I don't see why you should be near useless for the first 15 minutes to farm a bfury when you can go a cheaper route, push/fight when chrono is up, farm when it's down, repeat. Void with treads, PMS, stick, midas/MoM/maelstrom with chrono up can fight fine in the midgame. Backtrack exists so you can survive. Why do you need to split push with those items? With just those items, you don't have the HP pool for Backtrack to be good enough, and if you get stunned, you're still going to die even if you Backtracked the damage. Unless you're hitting 5-man Chronos every fight, you're not going to be able to teamfight comfortably with those items. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On October 15 2013 01:58 TheYango wrote: With just those items, you don't have the HP pool for Backtrack to be good enough, and if you get stunned, you're still going to die even if you Backtracked the damage. Unless you're hitting 5-man Chronos every fight, you're not going to be able to teamfight comfortably with those items. As long as your chrono isn't horrendous, even if you die, it should at least give your team enough of an advantage to win the fight. Dying as a carry isn't optimal, but it's not bad unless you're seriously the only hero with carry potential on your team. Everything in dota is situational though, | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On October 15 2013 01:37 Kishin2 wrote: You can get a maelstrom + midas/MoM for the cost of a battlefury. Or a midas + ogre axe + mithril hammer for it. I don't see why you should be near useless for the first 15 minutes to farm a bfury when you can go a cheaper route, push/fight when chrono is up, farm when it's down, repeat. Void with treads, PMS, stick, midas/MoM/maelstrom with chrono up can fight fine in the midgame. Backtrack exists so you can survive. Why do you need to split push with those items? I don't see why you assume that BF doesn't give any damage for midgame fights at all. As long as you have teammates with any fighting capability at all (and if you have a void, you probably do), Chrono + bf is really solid damage overall - 65 damage is pretty nice. | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
On October 15 2013 02:40 Comeh wrote: I don't see why you assume that BF doesn't give any damage for midgame fights at all. As long as you have teammates with any fighting capability at all (and if you have a void, you probably do), Chrono + bf is really solid damage overall - 65 damage is pretty nice. not to mention his base agi and armor growth are pretty good, so building straight damage is nice. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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Kuroeeah
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On October 14 2013 22:48 Faruko wrote: Just tried that MoM --> Aghanim Scepter --> Bloddstone --> Heart build on Bambi (Enchantress), You could see people diying left and right so fast it was not even funny, granted i was the carry playing with friends, so they let me farm Its so funny to see a cute hero like Enchantress destroying Doom LOL Aghs + MoM enchantress is pretty sick if your team can make room for you during a fight. I don't think you need the bloodstone tho | ||
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Grettin
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Kuroeeah
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On October 15 2013 04:12 Kuroeeah wrote: elder titan is so fucking disgusting I wish they removed the aura from the spirit entirely. There was a feeding offlane titan in my last game who absurdly increased the damage of the whole ennemy team while being in safety. Landed no stomp, no ulti but was definitely a huge factor in his team's damage output. I'm waiting for 6.79 so badly but I know it won't happen that fast as ET, troll, timbersaw and abba are sweet picks but it's not yet determined if they need tweaks or not. And I don't think huskar will make it into CM in his current shape. Besides OD and ET are just stupid midlaner as they require no freaking skill at top level compared to many other mid heroes (this is a pure spectator pov). It's stupid to have them this strong when a heroe like invoker just needs much more skill and has stupidly low lane presence outside of sunstrike to help other lanes. I'm also looking at gyro, bat, DS, visage and naix as stupidly strong heroes during the early stage of the game who still scale incredibly well. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On October 15 2013 04:39 Kuroeeah wrote: the stupid aura and his spirit is confirmed to be bugged, it's just doing way more damage than it's supposed to. link? | ||
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