EPTBut saying mom is bad and advocating midas bf hyperstone deso on FV is strange imo :o
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
But saying mom is bad and advocating midas bf hyperstone deso on FV is strange imo :o | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
edit: Get battlefury last because you don't need the cleave in the early/mid game. BKB is a must if you are going for MoM first and Daedalus boost your damage by a lot. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
Its so funny to see a cute hero like Enchantress destroying Doom LOL | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On October 14 2013 22:48 Faruko wrote: Just tried that MoM --> Aghanim Scepter --> Bloddstone --> Heart build on Bambi (Enchantress), You could see people diying left and right so fast it was not even funny, granted i was the carry playing with friends, so they let me farm Its so funny to see a cute hero like Enchantress destroying Doom LOL There is a reason why enchant has only 1 strength/level because except tankiness and escape, she has it all. One of the best level 1 after the neutrals spawns, early pushing power, good heal, good slow, good scaling with XP/gold, good heroe without XP/gold, good jungler, good laner, scales very well with skill (more than many heroes I mean). | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On October 14 2013 22:42 BlitzerSC wrote: MoM, BKB, Daedalus, Battlefury is the best Void build imho. edit: Get battlefury last because you don't need the cleave in the early/mid game. BKB is a must if you are going for MoM first and Daedalus boost your damage by a lot. Why crits after bkb? Mealstrom is more cost effective for damage, and attack speed stacks nicely with bash, unlike crits. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
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Autotroph
United Kingdom940 Posts
On October 14 2013 22:42 BlitzerSC wrote: MoM, BKB, Daedalus, Battlefury is the best Void build imho. edit: Get battlefury last because you don't need the cleave in the early/mid game. BKB is a must if you are going for MoM first and Daedalus boost your damage by a lot. you get BF for farming... On October 14 2013 23:01 Qbek wrote: Everybody who only says one hero build is a fool and also that lol | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On October 14 2013 23:01 Qbek wrote: Everybody who only says one hero build is a fool This guy has it right. And MoM has situational uses for Void. | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
On October 14 2013 23:01 Qbek wrote: Everybody who only says one hero build is a fool if only building refresher on dazzle is foolish i don't want to be wise | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
Everybody who says there can't be a best build for a hero is a fool. I can do that too !!! :D:D:D | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
Cause the last time I did that my friends disallowed me from playing axe. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On October 14 2013 23:40 Kishin2 wrote: Can we use something besides RP for Role-Play? Instantly think of Reverse Polarity when it comes up, and I can't be the only one. I associated RP with role play before I learnt of RP the spell so im immune to your confusion. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On October 14 2013 23:24 Shaella wrote: On the topic of RPing heros in chat, does just making axe puns as axe count? Cause the last time I did that my friends disallowed me from playing axe. At least for Axe, you still proc spinning to winning while you RP your ability to lead your horde as axe. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
You can get it when you are uber ahead in early game where you just ulti and smack the oppo to dead but your team economy better be ahead than the oppo team too, otherwise the smart oppo can trade one of their low level support for your life (while your MoM is activated) and then your economy is screwed while the oppo carry rises with the right items then prepare for taking all the blame/flame from your team. In this case, MoM is almost like a snowballer item, an item that allows him to join team fight at a very early timing with high dps at a very decent cost (keep in mind that you should be ahead ie more levels/farms than the oppos). Or you go YOLO mode when your laning phase is screwed up big time, no space to farm, shitty bfury timing so you rather give up on that, just 5men yolo the shit out of the oppos, and hopefully your team can come out ahead. In this case, buying the MoM or not is highly dependent to your team line up. I'd rather see a yolo void than a 20+mins naked bfury void, team is failing since laning phase and he still insist on playing single player game. Or you have a 2nd carry in team where you did ok (and he did well) during laning phase and you feel like you are going man mood void today. Or the 'safest' way to get MoM is probably when you are not going for AC so you can have MoM as your 4/5/6th item, probably more convenient when you are fountain diving so you just grab it there. In this case it is pretty much personal preference. With AC+Bfly and a vlad in team you should technically have about 80% attack speed boost like you couldget from an activated MoM anyway (screw maths thats just my estimation). Obviously never get MoM when the oppo had multiple disables/tonnes of burst damage/retarded team mate (like a stupid ES keep blocking your way). Generally if you had a good lane (<6mins midas or <13mins bfury) you can just get whatever you want, if I were the only carry in team then I'd rather not get MoM before my 3rd core item (be it bkb, crit or blfy). When i am playing a disadvantaged game I almost always midas->maelstrom and then see how it goes (almost never with MoM). But ya I can't remember how many games we come back from an oppo first item MoM void (similar to the case of oppo buying dagon/s), most of them seem to be think that MoM immediately grants them the ultimate carry power or something. The chances of seeing a good void (those who have more than 1 build on void) is rare as fck as well. + Show Spoiler + jesus christ a little wall of text, advertising my steam guide here, suit yourself! http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128992945 | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If you're not really ahead, or if the opposing team just has heroes that are generally good for dealing with this scenario, then MoM just becomes a dead end for you really fast. EDIT: While there are situations, MoM and BF together are something that I see way too commonly. While the combination is OK (damage item + attack speed item), the overall delay for your effectiveness is far too long (can't fight till MoM+BF+BKB or MoM+BF+BKB+BFly if the enemy's carry is fed enough). MoM has smoother transitions into smaller damage items like Mael and small crit that overall don't delay your period of effectiveness as much. | ||
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