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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On September 30 2013 21:34 Coil1 wrote: You're already stomping if you have enough money for agh in the midgame as 4/5 rubick. lmao For fun! Also, I suck at blink positioning but am pretty good at surviving and keeping away to get those bigger ults so sometimes I just go euls + ghost scepter if we're pretty much winning. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 30 2013 21:32 EnumaAvalon wrote: Hey, don't talk trash about EG at the moment, they're the DotA 2 Unofficial World Champions! Hahaha! Would it be okay if Rubick had an Aghs upgrade for Spell Steal? I love the hero so much and sometimes I wanna do something more with him mid game. He DOES have an Aghs upgrade for Spell Steal. It's just useless. All it does is turn any stolen ult into its Aghs form regardless of whether the initial caster has Aghs. I'd like to see it changed to something actually GOOD so we could potentially see solo mid Rubick as an option again. The hero's amazing to watch and can do with all the love Icefrog chooses to give it. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
...unless it instagibs every opponent and creep on the map or something. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
its not that rubick isnt viable itself, its just not very fitting in the meta right now (even tho meta is shifting right now) | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:18 Zealos wrote: Why did Rubick mid fall out of meta? If I recall correctly he received some nerfs to move speed and Fade Bolt and in addition the big ultimate heroes like Tidehunter and Enigma fell out of flavour I suppose. I'm not sure if there's any more into it. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Instant spellsteal, return the ult, he exploded. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
Also most current midheroes are pretty carry-oriented. Like SF, OD, Razor, Storm, Dragon Knight etc Rubick doesn't scale well enough into the lategame to pick him mid when there aren't enough big ultis to steal. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 30 2013 21:54 clusen wrote: You won't see Rubick mid again in serious games just because he got an Aghs upgrade... ...unless it instagibs every opponent and creep on the map or something. Spell Steal can hold two spells at once. Boom, he's now a solo mid again. Side note: is the game bugged so that neutrals can't miss uphill? Just watched a game where a jungle Lone Druid was killing the Radiant easy camp from the high ground just to the east, and the poison gnome things were hitting all their uphill attacks on him. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: When Rubick mid was a thing back in TI2 there was a lot of big ultis to steal. So having a farmed Rubick could turn the fights into their favour. Now heroes like Tide, Enigma, even Magnus doesn't see much play anymore. Also most current midheroes are pretty carry-oriented. Like SF, OD, Razor, Storm, Dragon Knight etc Rubick doesn't scale well enough into the lategame to pick him mid when there aren't enough big ultis to steal. One might speculate, however, that with this whole ET/Medusa thing going on coupled with how Naga is seen as a solid support now it might possibly be enough to start swaying him back towards a more farmed role. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:51 -Celestial- wrote: One might speculate, however, that with this whole ET/Medusa thing going on coupled with how Naga is seen as a solid support now it might possibly be enough to start swaying him back towards a more farmed role. Naga ult is incredibly hard to steal unless she fucks up massively. Ult into split means that you can't steal from her. Tide, Magnus, Enigma are all really easy to steal from, Tide especially so if you can get a Blink. Medusa ult is only good because of how tanky Medusa is, and ET ult is bad. It's Natural Order that's good. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:39 EnumaAvalon wrote: Who's the best support to pick of your team went jug, PA, Gyro, Sniper??? It was pretty frustrating. rubick? | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:39 EnumaAvalon wrote: Who's the best support to pick of your team went jug, PA, Gyro, Sniper??? It was pretty frustrating. Pick CM, go in the offlane with the jug and pray they don't trilane you. If they don't, you can probably dominate their duo. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 30 2013 23:13 BlitzerSC wrote: Support Naga is not that great imho. Naga has a 5-second partial disable that goes through BKB, an armor-reduction high-damage AOE nuke with a 10 second cooldown, an ability that summons three moving Observer Wards, and an ult that lets you start and stop teamfights whenever you please. The only thing she lacks is harass potential. How exactly is she not amazing? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 30 2013 23:18 Acritter wrote: Naga has a 5-second partial disable that goes through BKB, an armor-reduction high-damage AOE nuke with a 10 second cooldown, an ability that summons three moving Observer Wards, and an ult that lets you start and stop teamfights whenever you please. The only thing she lacks is harass potential. How exactly is she not amazing? Characterizing riptide as "high-damage" is quite generous. That said naga's broke as fuck. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 30 2013 23:19 Sn0_Man wrote: Characterizing riptide as "high-damage" is quite generous. That said naga's broke as fuck. 130 damage at level 1 is pretty goddamn hefty for an 80 mana cost spell. | ||
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