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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 29 2013 20:43 GMT
#80381
On September 30 2013 05:38 Dattish wrote:
wait, how is ET new meta when he was first pick in Chinese dota 1 all along?

Because DotA Allstars was a while ago. He's new to the DOTA2 meta, thus, new meta.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 29 2013 20:58 GMT
#80382
If I recall, I think Abaddon was picked situationally in Wc3 DotA but is seeing a bit more frequently now probably because of his relatively recent buffs.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 21:32:05
September 29 2013 21:26 GMT
#80383
Abaddon's passive is sick... Slow on enemy AND a bonus movement speed on you and allies. It's nuts.

Effectively, Level 1 slows for 5% and bonus for 15%. Technically a 20% slow?
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 29 2013 21:34 GMT
#80384
On September 30 2013 06:26 trinxified wrote:
Abaddon's passive is sick... Slow on enemy AND a bonus movement speed on you and allies. It's nuts.

Effectively, Level 1 slows for 5% and bonus for 15%. Technically a 20% slow?

Technically a 5% slow
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
September 29 2013 21:34 GMT
#80385
Nah, his main selling point is still pretty much the stun cleansing shield. Other parts of his kit are nice but seeing the look on a enemy batrider's face when you casually break his lasso would be hilarious.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 21:44:21
September 29 2013 21:40 GMT
#80386
On September 30 2013 06:34 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 06:26 trinxified wrote:
Abaddon's passive is sick... Slow on enemy AND a bonus movement speed on you and allies. It's nuts.

Effectively, Level 1 slows for 5% and bonus for 15%. Technically a 20% slow?

Technically a 5% slow


Let's assume there are 5 heroes against 1. All heroes have 300 movespeed for simplicity.

Abaddon is part of the 5. He hits the lone hero for 1 auto-attack with passive. The other 4 also proceeds to right click the same hero.

The lone enemy hero gets slowed to 285 MS. The 5 heroes attacking are now boosted to 345 MS. A difference of 60 MS, which means that the lone enemy hero is now 20% slower than the other 5 (285 vs. 345). Of course it's not the same as if it was just a regular slow of 20%, where the 5 heroes are still at 300, and the enemy is at 240. But you get what I mean?

Isn't this what happens? Remember that's only level 1 passive.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 21:48:29
September 29 2013 21:46 GMT
#80387
well, technically it's a 5% slow :p. The reason it isnt as useful in the lane is because a single point doesnt really stop anyone from running away, It lets you and your team stick on them better, but it isnt going to slow down the time it takes them to run to safety significantly. Could always get oov tho.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 29 2013 21:54 GMT
#80388
dusa ulti rapes melee. throw in a tc in there and you can get pretty sick teamfighting that the other team can't runaway from.
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Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
September 29 2013 22:19 GMT
#80389
Knew it months ago when my late game pl got wrecked by dusa despite being 2 rax up
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
September 29 2013 22:48 GMT
#80390
CD is amazing, I can see myself exclusively queuing for it in the foreseeable future.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 29 2013 23:10 GMT
#80391
On September 30 2013 07:48 Klonere wrote:
CD is amazing, I can see myself exclusively queuing for it in the foreseeable future.

It is a really good mode. I know that some people don't like it because they can't pick their perfect line ups every game, but those people have another mode called CM.
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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
September 29 2013 23:13 GMT
#80392
I was the victim of a comeback game because of medusa.

That ult made it that we just couldnt break high ground. That ultimate is just insane
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 29 2013 23:15 GMT
#80393
I might be wrong but I really don't think Medusa is top tier carry as of right now.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
September 29 2013 23:21 GMT
#80394
On September 30 2013 08:15 Kuroeeah wrote:
I might be wrong but I really don't think Medusa is top tier carry as of right now.

You just need to build a team around her.

Like teamliquid did with a naga/titan, they could protect her. naga/titan are the king/queen of disengagement/counter-intiation.
She's still a perfectly viable carry
Mew Mew Pew Pew
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 29 2013 23:28 GMT
#80395
It's too bad Faceless Void fell out of favor in current metagame... Was awesome to see godly or fail chronos from time to time lol.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 29 2013 23:39 GMT
#80396
im on like 7 games losing streak
its not even bad luck or anything, i just play shit like random pub retard i dunno whats up with me
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 29 2013 23:39 GMT
#80397
On September 30 2013 06:34 RuskiPanda wrote:
Nah, his main selling point is still pretty much the stun cleansing shield. Other parts of his kit are nice but seeing the look on a enemy batrider's face when you casually break his lasso would be hilarious.


I can attend to this. His shield is a godlike-skill, it's the difference between your carry dying or killing the other carry.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
September 29 2013 23:41 GMT
#80398
On September 30 2013 08:39 teddyoojo wrote:
im on like 7 games losing streak
its not even bad luck or anything, i just play shit like random pub retard i dunno whats up with me


i went on a 6 game losing streak this saturday, all solo q. i made peace with solo q now though so I don't give a fuck what happens when and only focus on my own play

mostly
Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
September 29 2013 23:51 GMT
#80399
On September 30 2013 08:41 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 08:39 teddyoojo wrote:
im on like 7 games losing streak
its not even bad luck or anything, i just play shit like random pub retard i dunno whats up with me


i went on a 6 game losing streak this saturday, all solo q. i made peace with solo q now though so I don't give a fuck what happens when and only focus on my own play

mostly

Normally useless to try to change your teammates' item choices, etc. I've found that trying to play your best while bringing as much awareness to the team works out the best for me when solo-queueing. Keeping an open communication with your team and trying to synergize is always good and oh-so-satisfying when it works out, but sometimes it just doesn't.

My soloq viewpoint is this: Try hard, but don't tryhard. (because that shit's boring, yo)
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 30 2013 00:16 GMT
#80400
Okay then ESWC is answering the is rs int a teir one team question quite effectively. The question now is if EG is a tier one team or Rs int is really over rated. They just got strait out played.
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