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CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 16:59:25
September 29 2013 16:58 GMT
#80341
On September 30 2013 01:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 01:44 TheYango wrote:
On September 30 2013 01:43 Acritter wrote:
On September 30 2013 01:39 Asha` wrote:
I just watched 1 team build 3 meks =D

Well, clearly they built it for the...

um...

stats?

Pushing obviously. You can only Mek heroes once every CD, but that doesn't stop you from Mek-ing creep waves to push!


Isn't the can't doublemek debuff only a 25 second duration?


yes, so i guess you could get 2, and they would still technically be useful.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 29 2013 17:11 GMT
#80342
Dunno why while i really disliked watching synd in any competitive games i enjoy his pub stream a LOT. And i even don't get attracted to it by music like in most streamer's case. Maybe it is somehow related to his comments (tho then still there are some streamers who talk a lot and i hate them).
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 29 2013 17:39 GMT
#80343
On September 30 2013 02:11 Kaniol wrote:
Dunno why while i really disliked watching synd in any competitive games i enjoy his pub stream a LOT. And i even don't get attracted to it by music like in most streamer's case. Maybe it is somehow related to his comments (tho then still there are some streamers who talk a lot and i hate them).


Just trying to be fair to synder and here is what i think:

That's because with synder's game sense+mechanic are enough for him to play some (entertaining) games on his stream but his mechanics is quite bad in actual pro games and you can tell that he tends to make so much mistakes here and there (e.g. he just died as a CK walking around with 80hp for about 5seconds and get killed by furi without toggling his armlet or he simply forgets that he has armlet) in which pub games are very forgivable on mistakes.

If the same hero was played by a better player the game would have been finished sooner but instead you see synder couldn't finish the game so we get to watch a longer game with more fights etc ie entertaining stream. Same rule applies to most lesser pro player.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
September 29 2013 17:46 GMT
#80344
So, what's up with people calling Envy "Based Envy-sama" or whatever? I realize sama is some kind of Japanese title or something but what's with the "Based"?
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 29 2013 17:47 GMT
#80345
On September 30 2013 02:39 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 02:11 Kaniol wrote:
Dunno why while i really disliked watching synd in any competitive games i enjoy his pub stream a LOT. And i even don't get attracted to it by music like in most streamer's case. Maybe it is somehow related to his comments (tho then still there are some streamers who talk a lot and i hate them).


Just trying to be fair to synder and here is what i think:

That's because with synder's game sense+mechanic are enough for him to play some (entertaining) games on his stream but his mechanics is quite bad in actual pro games and you can tell that he tends to make so much mistakes here and there (e.g. he just died as a CK walking around with 80hp for about 5seconds and get killed by furi without toggling his armlet or he simply forgets that he has armlet) in which pub games are very forgivable on mistakes.

If the same hero was played by a better player the game would have been finished sooner but instead you see synder couldn't finish the game so we get to watch a longer game with more fights etc ie entertaining stream. Same rule applies to most lesser pro player.

Yeah i agree on the mechanics part, i've noticed a lot of the situations where his mechanics were not good enough (probably way better than mine but that's not the point of discussion i think ;x)
I guess it's also his personality seeming quite cool and not playing too many troll games - which is sometimes making me not want to watch certain streams. Like a single troll game here and there doesn't hurt but they usually get boring quickly.

I remember there was this League of Legends player who got super popular after season 1 finals - Shushei. He had cool personality, sense of humour and personal skill, which is why at S1 finals he got huge amount of fans, then he started streaming and got big amount of viewers, mixing his stream with stuff like role playing (he had masks of League champions etc.) and playing troll games from time to time. This made his stream get even more viewers, so he decided to focus on trolling and role playing and in the end people got bored of him.


The end
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 29 2013 17:49 GMT
#80346
On September 30 2013 02:47 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 02:39 BurningSera wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:11 Kaniol wrote:
Dunno why while i really disliked watching synd in any competitive games i enjoy his pub stream a LOT. And i even don't get attracted to it by music like in most streamer's case. Maybe it is somehow related to his comments (tho then still there are some streamers who talk a lot and i hate them).


Just trying to be fair to synder and here is what i think:

That's because with synder's game sense+mechanic are enough for him to play some (entertaining) games on his stream but his mechanics is quite bad in actual pro games and you can tell that he tends to make so much mistakes here and there (e.g. he just died as a CK walking around with 80hp for about 5seconds and get killed by furi without toggling his armlet or he simply forgets that he has armlet) in which pub games are very forgivable on mistakes.

If the same hero was played by a better player the game would have been finished sooner but instead you see synder couldn't finish the game so we get to watch a longer game with more fights etc ie entertaining stream. Same rule applies to most lesser pro player.

Yeah i agree on the mechanics part, i've noticed a lot of the situations where his mechanics were not good enough (probably way better than mine but that's not the point of discussion i think ;x)
I guess it's also his personality seeming quite cool and not playing too many troll games - which is sometimes making me not want to watch certain streams. Like a single troll game here and there doesn't hurt but they usually get boring quickly.

I remember there was this League of Legends player who got super popular after season 1 finals - Shushei. He had cool personality, sense of humour and personal skill, which is why at S1 finals he got huge amount of fans, then he started streaming and got big amount of viewers, mixing his stream with stuff like role playing (he had masks of League champions etc.) and playing troll games from time to time. This made his stream get even more viewers, so he decided to focus on trolling and role playing and in the end people got bored of him.


The end

6/5 would read again
:)
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
September 29 2013 17:51 GMT
#80347
So, since we are talking about Synderen's stream right now: am I the only one who finds funny that the Gyrocopter got a rare CK mount as a drop even though he fed quite a lot ?

LOL.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 29 2013 17:51 GMT
#80348
On September 30 2013 02:46 Aldehyde wrote:
So, what's up with people calling Envy "Based Envy-sama" or whatever? I realize sama is some kind of Japanese title or something but what's with the "Based"?

"Based god" is some silly meme or other.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 17:57:56
September 29 2013 17:56 GMT
#80349
So,anyone tried this ?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 18:02:53
September 29 2013 18:01 GMT
#80350
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 29 2013 18:07 GMT
#80351
On September 30 2013 03:01 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.

Since the First blood patch you can disassemble items just like you can resell items for 100% price for first 10 s.
If you reassemble item on your hero it gets cooldown, however if you reassemble it on something that did not use it - it has no cooldown. Seems like quite a big bug, i think it may eve be possible that you could just sit with that glove on bear and recipe on hero and get 380 gpm just by abusing this o.o
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 18:09:10
September 29 2013 18:08 GMT
#80352
nvm
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 29 2013 18:19 GMT
#80353
On September 30 2013 03:07 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 03:01 Excludos wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.

Since the First blood patch you can disassemble items just like you can resell items for 100% price for first 10 s.
If you reassemble item on your hero it gets cooldown, however if you reassemble it on something that did not use it - it has no cooldown. Seems like quite a big bug, i think it may eve be possible that you could just sit with that glove on bear and recipe on hero and get 380 gpm just by abusing this o.o

Wat?
Midas cooldown is not 60 seconds
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 29 2013 18:19 GMT
#80354
On September 30 2013 02:51 BlitzerSC wrote:
So, since we are talking about Synderen's stream right now: am I the only one who finds funny that the Gyrocopter got a rare CK mount as a drop even though he fed quite a lot ?

LOL.

Valve conspiracy: reward shit players with mythicals so they keep playing.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
September 29 2013 18:20 GMT
#80355
On September 30 2013 03:07 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 03:01 Excludos wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.

Since the First blood patch you can disassemble items just like you can resell items for 100% price for first 10 s.
If you reassemble item on your hero it gets cooldown, however if you reassemble it on something that did not use it - it has no cooldown. Seems like quite a big bug, i think it may eve be possible that you could just sit with that glove on bear and recipe on hero and get 380 gpm just by abusing this o.o


Wait wait wait...did he just use the midas when it was on the courier?

If so how has nobody tried making like...five couriers to follow them around with just midas on them? 570 GPM without even farming yourself.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 29 2013 18:23 GMT
#80356
Rofl, why dont they give sylla an agh upgrade so i could abuse this bug even more =D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 18:33:55
September 29 2013 18:27 GMT
#80357
On September 30 2013 03:19 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 03:07 Kaniol wrote:
On September 30 2013 03:01 Excludos wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.

Since the First blood patch you can disassemble items just like you can resell items for 100% price for first 10 s.
If you reassemble item on your hero it gets cooldown, however if you reassemble it on something that did not use it - it has no cooldown. Seems like quite a big bug, i think it may eve be possible that you could just sit with that glove on bear and recipe on hero and get 380 gpm just by abusing this o.o

Wat?
Midas cooldown is not 60 seconds

No, it's 90 seconds, or am i wrong? 190*3*2/3 = 380

On September 30 2013 03:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 03:07 Kaniol wrote:
On September 30 2013 03:01 Excludos wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.

Since the First blood patch you can disassemble items just like you can resell items for 100% price for first 10 s.
If you reassemble item on your hero it gets cooldown, however if you reassemble it on something that did not use it - it has no cooldown. Seems like quite a big bug, i think it may eve be possible that you could just sit with that glove on bear and recipe on hero and get 380 gpm just by abusing this o.o


Wait wait wait...did he just use the midas when it was on the courier?

If so how has nobody tried making like...five couriers to follow them around with just midas on them? 570 GPM without even farming yourself.

Yep, dunno if couriers don't share a cd tho :x
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 18:29:40
September 29 2013 18:29 GMT
#80358
On September 30 2013 03:19 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 02:51 BlitzerSC wrote:
So, since we are talking about Synderen's stream right now: am I the only one who finds funny that the Gyrocopter got a rare CK mount as a drop even though he fed quite a lot ?

LOL.

Valve conspiracy: reward shit players with mythicals so they keep playing.

Actually i've just been obsing my friend playing mid nyx, he went 0/1 in lane, then got fed on enemy BH, ended like 32/2, BH was 0/14, endgame BH gets rewarded with alphid of lecaciida mythical courier :D

I witnessed 3 mythicals being dropped today. So far i still have not dropped even one -.-"
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 29 2013 18:32 GMT
#80359
On September 30 2013 03:27 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 03:19 Yoshi- wrote:
On September 30 2013 03:07 Kaniol wrote:
On September 30 2013 03:01 Excludos wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.

Since the First blood patch you can disassemble items just like you can resell items for 100% price for first 10 s.
If you reassemble item on your hero it gets cooldown, however if you reassemble it on something that did not use it - it has no cooldown. Seems like quite a big bug, i think it may eve be possible that you could just sit with that glove on bear and recipe on hero and get 380 gpm just by abusing this o.o

Wat?
Midas cooldown is not 60 seconds

No, it's 90 seconds, or am i wrong? 190*3*2/3 = 380


It's 100 secs.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 29 2013 18:35 GMT
#80360
On September 30 2013 03:32 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 03:27 Kaniol wrote:
On September 30 2013 03:19 Yoshi- wrote:
On September 30 2013 03:07 Kaniol wrote:
On September 30 2013 03:01 Excludos wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:56 zezamer wrote:
So,anyone tried this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXWLMf1hOY


Didn't know you could disassemble hand of midas all of a sudden?

edit: oh, its the 10 sec cooldown because its on the courier. Sure that should work, you just have to constantly have the courier around you.

Since the First blood patch you can disassemble items just like you can resell items for 100% price for first 10 s.
If you reassemble item on your hero it gets cooldown, however if you reassemble it on something that did not use it - it has no cooldown. Seems like quite a big bug, i think it may eve be possible that you could just sit with that glove on bear and recipe on hero and get 380 gpm just by abusing this o.o

Wat?
Midas cooldown is not 60 seconds

No, it's 90 seconds, or am i wrong? 190*3*2/3 = 380


It's 100 secs.

/facepalm yeah that's sad by me. Should be 342 gpm, anyway still huge ^_^
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