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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 29 2013 14:45 GMT
#80321
super tryhard tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
September 29 2013 14:50 GMT
#80322
took me 4,5minutes until i released you could actually move the camera in that pudge minigame... :D
Kevmeister @ Dota2
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
September 29 2013 15:09 GMT
#80323
On September 29 2013 16:30 739 wrote:
Anyone tried the Hook trainer? :D

http://weneedwards.com/meathook/


Meh the hook aoe is off quite a bit from the ingame one. I'd prefer to just have someone figure out how to make something in dota 2 to do this. There was a dota 1 map that actually did it and was really good since it was an exact replica.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 15:32:48
September 29 2013 15:11 GMT
#80324
On September 29 2013 23:50 FliedLice wrote:
took me 4,5minutes until i released you could actually move the camera in that pudge minigame... :D


took me even longer to realize you can actually move pudge..
sometimes when the enemy walks away out of hook range, i was sitting there thinking "This game is stupid"

edit: hmm there's also a stop command! it's Z by default.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 29 2013 15:21 GMT
#80325
On September 29 2013 23:34 kollin wrote:
Yeah he's decent from my experience with him.

He was fine, no real complaints. Followed up with Split Earth properly. Unfortunately, our Ogre initiated maybe once with a Lifestealer trilane, so we lost to a Luna/Clockwerk dual lane.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
September 29 2013 15:22 GMT
#80326
On September 30 2013 00:11 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 23:50 FliedLice wrote:
took me 4,5minutes until i released you could actually move the camera in that pudge minigame... :D


took me even longer to realize you can actually move pudge..
sometimes when the enemy walks away out of hook range, i was sitting there thinking "This game is stupid"

This infuriated me too heh. That plus the edge panning doesn't quite work.

Still a bit of fun though. ^_^
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 29 2013 15:36 GMT
#80327
SyndereN is doing something really lulzy with Centaur on stream. I like it! Hahahaha!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 29 2013 15:45 GMT
#80328
On September 30 2013 00:36 EnumaAvalon wrote:
SyndereN is doing something really lulzy with Centaur on stream. I like it! Hahahaha!

Yeah, never thought about smoke jungling with double edge. Some ideas for jungling are really interresting (like this or vacuuming radiant creeps to the hill
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 29 2013 15:47 GMT
#80329
On September 30 2013 00:45 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 00:36 EnumaAvalon wrote:
SyndereN is doing something really lulzy with Centaur on stream. I like it! Hahahaha!

Yeah, never thought about smoke jungling with double edge. Some ideas for jungling are really interresting (like this or vacuuming radiant creeps to the hill

I didn't even know that Double Edge had AOE now. Haha! It's been so long since I've seen a Centaur.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 29 2013 16:19 GMT
#80330
On September 29 2013 20:00 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 19:08 kollin wrote:
On September 29 2013 18:59 Mataza wrote:
Kollin seems to be the only caring about NB's stories about becoming the master of inhouseleagues.
I wonder if it was worth for NB to document his experiences in the blog section.

? He is sharing a lot of knowledge, have some respect.

Interesting maybe("bdiz gave me orders, I'm so nervous").
A lot of Knowledge? Getting a stout shield from starting gold on support naga isn't exactly ground breaking, if you watched Alliance closely during TI3.

I could extract a ton of knowledge from replays with the scientific method of 1. see something 2. remember different takes on same situation(the alternative methods) 3. understand the player's choice.

That's my advice. If you want to get better, do that.
Stories about someone being nervous won't even come close to help you in anything, aside from entertaining you.

Its not really groundbreaking you are right. That is why i never question why would i have to do these kinda thing. However it is uncommon for a support to go shoutshield instead of smoke+sentry. Given that you are going long lane, there will definitely a ward war thats gona go down around the block camp which could often result the lost of your obs and having to use sentry instead.

Both builds are viable and my problem, if you could tell from my post, was that i dont know which build are these players taking as a GIVEN. I didnt know the drafter intention behind his line up bc there was really little communication going in plus me being unfamiliar to them, we are talking everything happens before the start of the game where most people just tab out and dont even care about the draft.

My habits are also need to be broken down. I am a very passive aggressive support player. I strongly favor the trading of net worth on my hero to an extreme position make sure that my cores has room to farm and their core cant find pick off. Imagine a Naga who just gona sit in fog behind her hard carry 24/7 just to make sure she could song when a bat rider lasso, or a CM who gona frostbite a Bara charge instead of farming for high tier support items. I have seen many successful players who playstyle is similar or opposite and the succession is often depends on how good your cores' individual skill are to not get caught. Given my pub background, what I did clearly make sense but not fully efficient. And its these kinda habits that make my game play sometimes so out sync with the rest of the team and sometimes just sync up godly.

Lastly, for those of you who dont know, I am not a core player. Even in pub i play support most of the time so a lot of things I need to learn are strategy related. Positioning, objective warding, drafting are all needed to be catered to your line up: Universe needs room to grow, Jeyo is aggressive, never follow bamboe or demon, ixmike takes ganking personal etc... I had never played with these people b4 so im still learning. That or i could spend 1000 hours grind out a core position and stop dodging 1v1 unvouch T_T.

P/s: TC is so broken, and thank god i know how to play him.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
September 29 2013 16:26 GMT
#80331
nice NB i'll be cheering for you at ti4
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 16:31:50
September 29 2013 16:30 GMT
#80332
On September 30 2013 01:19 NB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 29 2013 20:00 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 19:08 kollin wrote:
On September 29 2013 18:59 Mataza wrote:
Kollin seems to be the only caring about NB's stories about becoming the master of inhouseleagues.
I wonder if it was worth for NB to document his experiences in the blog section.

? He is sharing a lot of knowledge, have some respect.

Interesting maybe("bdiz gave me orders, I'm so nervous").
A lot of Knowledge? Getting a stout shield from starting gold on support naga isn't exactly ground breaking, if you watched Alliance closely during TI3.

I could extract a ton of knowledge from replays with the scientific method of 1. see something 2. remember different takes on same situation(the alternative methods) 3. understand the player's choice.

That's my advice. If you want to get better, do that.
Stories about someone being nervous won't even come close to help you in anything, aside from entertaining you.

Its not really groundbreaking you are right. That is why i never question why would i have to do these kinda thing. However it is uncommon for a support to go shoutshield instead of smoke+sentry. Given that you are going long lane, there will definitely a ward war thats gona go down around the block camp which could often result the lost of your obs and having to use sentry instead.

Both builds are viable and my problem, if you could tell from my post, was that i dont know which build are these players taking as a GIVEN. I didnt know the drafter intention behind his line up bc there was really little communication going in plus me being unfamiliar to them, we are talking everything happens before the start of the game where most people just tab out and dont even care about the draft.

My habits are also need to be broken down. I am a very passive aggressive support player. I strongly favor the trading of net worth on my hero to an extreme position make sure that my cores has room to farm and their core cant find pick off. Imagine a Naga who just gona sit in fog behind her hard carry 24/7 just to make sure she could song when a bat rider lasso, or a CM who gona frostbite a Bara charge instead of farming for high tier support items. I have seen many successful players who playstyle is similar or opposite and the succession is often depends on how good your cores' individual skill are to not get caught. Given my pub background, what I did clearly make sense but not fully efficient. And its these kinda habits that make my game play sometimes so out sync with the rest of the team and sometimes just sync up godly.

Lastly, for those of you who dont know, I am not a core player. Even in pub i play support most of the time so a lot of things I need to learn are strategy related. Positioning, objective warding, drafting are all needed to be catered to your line up: Universe needs room to grow, Jeyo is aggressive, never follow bamboe or demon, ixmike takes ganking personal etc... I had never played with these people b4 so im still learning. That or i could spend 1000 hours grind out a core position and stop dodging 1v1 unvouch T_T.

P/s: TC is so broken, and thank god i know how to play him.

This should go straight into your autobiography.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
September 29 2013 16:35 GMT
#80333
my pubstats just updated to include more games (75% instead of 25%) And it showed me this cool graph:
Matches above High (percent)
[image loading]
It's really cool to see my progression like this.
Wish there was something similar ingame so we don't need 3rd party sites for this.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 29 2013 16:39 GMT
#80334
I just watched 1 team build 3 meks =D
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 29 2013 16:43 GMT
#80335
On September 30 2013 01:39 Asha` wrote:
I just watched 1 team build 3 meks =D

Well, clearly they built it for the...

um...

stats?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 29 2013 16:43 GMT
#80336
On September 30 2013 01:30 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 01:19 NB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 29 2013 20:00 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 19:08 kollin wrote:
On September 29 2013 18:59 Mataza wrote:
Kollin seems to be the only caring about NB's stories about becoming the master of inhouseleagues.
I wonder if it was worth for NB to document his experiences in the blog section.

? He is sharing a lot of knowledge, have some respect.

Interesting maybe("bdiz gave me orders, I'm so nervous").
A lot of Knowledge? Getting a stout shield from starting gold on support naga isn't exactly ground breaking, if you watched Alliance closely during TI3.

I could extract a ton of knowledge from replays with the scientific method of 1. see something 2. remember different takes on same situation(the alternative methods) 3. understand the player's choice.

That's my advice. If you want to get better, do that.
Stories about someone being nervous won't even come close to help you in anything, aside from entertaining you.

Its not really groundbreaking you are right. That is why i never question why would i have to do these kinda thing. However it is uncommon for a support to go shoutshield instead of smoke+sentry. Given that you are going long lane, there will definitely a ward war thats gona go down around the block camp which could often result the lost of your obs and having to use sentry instead.

Both builds are viable and my problem, if you could tell from my post, was that i dont know which build are these players taking as a GIVEN. I didnt know the drafter intention behind his line up bc there was really little communication going in plus me being unfamiliar to them, we are talking everything happens before the start of the game where most people just tab out and dont even care about the draft.

My habits are also need to be broken down. I am a very passive aggressive support player. I strongly favor the trading of net worth on my hero to an extreme position make sure that my cores has room to farm and their core cant find pick off. Imagine a Naga who just gona sit in fog behind her hard carry 24/7 just to make sure she could song when a bat rider lasso, or a CM who gona frostbite a Bara charge instead of farming for high tier support items. I have seen many successful players who playstyle is similar or opposite and the succession is often depends on how good your cores' individual skill are to not get caught. Given my pub background, what I did clearly make sense but not fully efficient. And its these kinda habits that make my game play sometimes so out sync with the rest of the team and sometimes just sync up godly.

Lastly, for those of you who dont know, I am not a core player. Even in pub i play support most of the time so a lot of things I need to learn are strategy related. Positioning, objective warding, drafting are all needed to be catered to your line up: Universe needs room to grow, Jeyo is aggressive, never follow bamboe or demon, ixmike takes ganking personal etc... I had never played with these people b4 so im still learning. That or i could spend 1000 hours grind out a core position and stop dodging 1v1 unvouch T_T.

P/s: TC is so broken, and thank god i know how to play him.

This should go straight into your autobiography.

Based NB-sama?
WriterXiao8~~
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 29 2013 16:44 GMT
#80337
On September 30 2013 01:43 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 01:39 Asha` wrote:
I just watched 1 team build 3 meks =D

Well, clearly they built it for the...

um...

stats?

Pushing obviously. You can only Mek heroes once every CD, but that doesn't stop you from Mek-ing creep waves to push!
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Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
September 29 2013 16:45 GMT
#80338
On September 30 2013 01:39 Asha` wrote:
I just watched 1 team build 3 meks =D


lol, duh, you need one in each lane for the tri-heal splitpush strat.
._. \: |: /: .-. :\ :| :/ ._. They see me rolling...
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 29 2013 16:49 GMT
#80339
On September 30 2013 01:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 01:43 Acritter wrote:
On September 30 2013 01:39 Asha` wrote:
I just watched 1 team build 3 meks =D

Well, clearly they built it for the...

um...

stats?

Pushing obviously. You can only Mek heroes once every CD, but that doesn't stop you from Mek-ing creep waves to push!

Ah, it's all so clear to me now! Thank you!

Quick aside, does the Mek heal check to see if the Mek buff is on someone before healing? Because if so, I foresee a hilarious Diffusal into double Mek play happening sometime.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 17:16:06
September 29 2013 16:56 GMT
#80340
On September 30 2013 01:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 01:43 Acritter wrote:
On September 30 2013 01:39 Asha` wrote:
I just watched 1 team build 3 meks =D

Well, clearly they built it for the...

um...

stats?

Pushing obviously. You can only Mek heroes once every CD, but that doesn't stop you from Mek-ing creep waves to push!


Isn't the can't doublemek debuff only a 25 second duration? I guess technically this is just the armor buff itself which is still only 25 seconds.
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