General Discussion - Page 390

On April 14 2012 11:03 Whole wrote:
What makes him difficult? Is it that you need to jungle really effectively (stacking, proper routes, not getting ganked or wasting time) with him to be effective?

On April 14 2012 08:59 dragonborn wrote:


yes sylla is a good hero, its not mainly for pushing thought, especially in pubs ^^

also wtf, fnaticRC dominating mTWW.

On April 14 2012 12:46 Nevuk wrote:



Their usual style was essentially the polar opposite of Na'Vi's, it tended towards safe, defensive play with a dominant mid and carry player whom they built their hero composition around

On April 14 2012 12:46 Nevuk wrote:

If fnaticRC is the hon team that's really not that surprising, they've been practicing like mad to avoid the hontrash lable and have been together longer than Na'Vi with fewer lineup changes and were even more dominant in HoN than Na'Vi has been in dota 2. They've been scrimming nonstop against Trixi's team (or was it itsgosu?) for the past few weeks with Calculus as a ringer who has been providing insight into the current scene for them. Calculus is unfortunately probably less individually skilled than h4nni or era, but fnatic has had 6 member teams before so there's a chance he could be signed on and played when one of their members has scheduling issues.

Considering that it's basically Fly/Nova/N0tail with +2 of Era/H4nni... that really would be more viable than some of the current competitive dota 2 teams. It really depends on how well Era transfers... H4nni is/was pretty similar to Trixi in playstyle and roles, even down to hero preferences.

H4nni has also had a long history of competitive play in dota even before hon. The only thing about him is that.... H4nni had um... hilariously bad issues the last time he tried to play dota ("WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT HOTKEYS???" about Puck's orb for those forgetting his all-stars match) . They're unlikely to come out of the gates dominating everyone but they're a likely team to cause upsets. Era is the unknown factor in this mix, I have no idea if he has or had any competitive dota 1 experience and was also a roster replacement for trixi/freshpro well after I stopped following hon.

I've not watched any of their recent hon games (ie after Trixi left and Era/H4nni joined) but they've always been a safe and fairly stable team in their gameplay... it was very hard to draft against them as it seemed like there was no strategy they weren''t capable of pulling off at least once . Their usual style was essentially the polar opposite of Na'Vi's, it tended towards safe, defensive play with a dominant mid and carry player whom they built their hero composition around and trying to always pick a strong mid game team (They would farm up until 30-40ish minutes then just break out and go for the rax). This doesn't mean that we didn't see the occasional 5 healer team, mass push stick strategies or global gimmicks from them that tended to succeed. The drafter (Fly), carry player(Fly), mid player (N0tail), and support player (Nova) have all transferred over and are practicing in tandem pretty much as often as they can.

Something people may not realize is that many of their 'team' heroes are ones that were from dota... VS was basically Nova's baby even way after s2 had nerfed her stats to a point where most teams found picking her absurd, Puck at one point was N0tail's signature mid hero (he also had a brief period of making zeus imba as well). They also enjoyed lich, enigma, wd, pretty much any support that was called for. Their missing original 5th member (freshpro) was their sidelane/suicide solo player who was most known for his clockwerk, syllabear, and capacity to throw/feed leads away. Trixi also had potm/veno(who is really really different in hon), so these are all heroes they're already extremely familiar with.

The carry heroes are really the only region where they are entering untested waters as s2 found fit to make imba carry after imba carry and alter classic ports to the point where they barely resembled their 'port'. (IE antimage has pugna's nether ward as a passive, void had reliable bashcounters, timeleap does damage).

On April 14 2012 12:46 Nevuk wrote:

If fnaticRC is the hon team that's really not that surprising, they've been practicing like mad to avoid the hontrash lable and have been together longer than Na'Vi with fewer lineup changes and were even more dominant in HoN than Na'Vi has been in dota 2. They've been scrimming nonstop against Trixi's team (or was it itsgosu?) for the past few weeks with Calculus as a ringer who has been providing insight into the current scene for them. Calculus is unfortunately probably less individually skilled than h4nni or era, but fnatic has had 6 member teams before so there's a chance he could be signed on and played when one of their members has scheduling issues.

Considering that it's basically Fly/Nova/N0tail with +2 of Era/H4nni... that really would be more viable than some of the current competitive dota 2 teams. It really depends on how well Era transfers... H4nni is/was pretty similar to Trixi in playstyle and roles, even down to hero preferences.

H4nni has also had a long history of competitive play in dota even before hon. The only thing about him is that.... H4nni had um... hilariously bad issues the last time he tried to play dota ("WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT HOTKEYS???" about Puck's orb for those forgetting his all-stars match) . They're unlikely to come out of the gates dominating everyone but they're a likely team to cause upsets. Era is the unknown factor in this mix, I have no idea if he has or had any competitive dota 1 experience and was also a roster replacement for trixi/freshpro well after I stopped following hon.

I've not watched any of their recent hon games (ie after Trixi left and Era/H4nni joined) but they've always been a safe and fairly stable team in their gameplay... it was very hard to draft against them as it seemed like there was no strategy they weren''t capable of pulling off at least once . Their usual style was essentially the polar opposite of Na'Vi's, it tended towards safe, defensive play with a dominant mid and carry player whom they built their hero composition around and trying to always pick a strong mid game team (They would farm up until 30-40ish minutes then just break out and go for the rax). This doesn't mean that we didn't see the occasional 5 healer team, mass push stick strategies or global gimmicks from them that tended to succeed. The drafter (Fly), carry player(Fly), mid player (N0tail), and support player (Nova) have all transferred over and are practicing in tandem pretty much as often as they can.

Something people may not realize is that many of their 'team' heroes are ones that were from dota... VS was basically Nova's baby even way after s2 had nerfed her stats to a point where most teams found picking her absurd, Puck at one point was N0tail's signature mid hero (he also had a brief period of making zeus imba as well). They also enjoyed lich, enigma, wd, pretty much any support that was called for. Their missing original 5th member (freshpro) was their sidelane/suicide solo player who was most known for his clockwerk, syllabear, and capacity to throw/feed leads away. Trixi also had potm/veno(who is really really different in hon), so these are all heroes they're already extremely familiar with.

The carry heroes are really the only region where they are entering untested waters as s2 found fit to make imba carry after imba carry and alter classic ports to the point where they barely resembled their 'port'. (IE antimage has pugna's nether ward as a passive, void had reliable bashcounters, timeleap does damage).

On April 14 2012 11:26 Unleashing wrote:

Sylla is a slow jungler. So, no, he'd be in a solo lane in optimal games.
He's not difficult at all, but he's just a lategame oriented hero mostly and lategame heroes are generally 'bad' for pub games, where pubstompers are often midgame heroes.
And up to and a good while after getting radiance sylla will be an almost null-factor to the team, but then again, you can probably build him differently to let him affect the mid-game.

Also: I love to blast "DotA" by bass hunter while playing DotA, it's sort of nostalgic i suppose?

On April 14 2012 18:29 HaruRH wrote:
Wow, someone (or the system) gifted me 10 copies of DotA 2! putting up screenshot soon

EDIT: Screnshot!
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 14 2012 11:26 Unleashing wrote:
Also: I love to blast "DotA" by bass hunter while playing DotA, it's sort of nostalgic i suppose?

On April 14 2012 11:26 Unleashing wrote:

Also: I love to blast "DotA" by bass hunter while playing DotA, it's sort of nostalgic i suppose?

On April 14 2012 18:29 HaruRH wrote:
Wow, someone (or the system) gifted me 10 copies of DotA 2! putting up screenshot soon

EDIT: Screnshot!
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 14 2012 19:30 Benjef wrote:


Its all about playing Blue Stahli during dota playing. But thats probably just me watching a crap tonne of diesmiling666 vids :D

On April 14 2012 18:29 HaruRH wrote:
Wow, someone (or the system) gifted me 10 copies of DotA 2! putting up screenshot soon

EDIT: Screnshot!
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 14 2012 13:55 Steveling wrote:
Thx for the info Nevuk.

Also I think that will be their weakness.



I don't think that their mid player is capable of soloing against monsters like dendi, g, miggel or even bulba.
Even their old line up was more skilled, pray.
Oh well, guess we'll find out.

On April 14 2012 19:50 Unleashing wrote:

I've seen so many pictures exactly like this one, i'd like more proof because to me this just smells like an edit.
This is the fifth time i see a picture almost identical to this.